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Re: Realization
Posted By: Rox <rox_da_fox@spray.se>Date: 1/26/08 5:14 a.m.

In Response To: Realization (DHalo)


: Even though Halo 2 is at the bottom of my Halo favorites list, I just
: realized where it placed #1. The storytelling wasn't fabulous (Halo 3's
: was really good IMO), but the game seemed to be driven by plot, where the
: gameplay was NOT sacrificed for plot at the same time.

I absolutely agree. I think Halo 3 may be the worst of the bunch in that aspect. I mean, even in the first game you were always given something new to strive for in each level.

First one, you try to fend off the Covenant boarding parties, then escape. Second, you have to find all your buddies. Third, you head out to save the captain. Fourth, you try to find a way to get to a place you learned about in the last level. Fifth, you find said place and try to get to it. Sixth, you learn of a new threat and head out to save your buddies from it. Seventh, a mysterious new lightbulb teaches you new things about the ring and its history, and gets you to fetch a key to unlock the ring's 'weapon'. Eighth, you find out that it's not really an anti-Flood weapon and you have to stop the lightbulb from activating it on his own. Ninth, you go back to try to save the captain, again, so you can use him to blow the ring up. Tenth, you go back to the Autumn in order to blow it up.

Halo 2 had a similar deal where each level seemed to have a very clear motivation behind it.

First, save a space station from invasion, in order to protect earth. Second, a ship slips through and you have to go down and fend off the invasion from the ground. Third... well, same thing. Fourth, new character arc! Arby is sent on a mission to kill some unbelievers that seem to be trying to spread some interesting propaganda about the Prophets. Fifth, same thing... Sixth, the invaders on Earth have fled, but it's still not clear how they knew about Earth and why they came, so you have to follow them to find out. Seventh, same thing. Eighth, Arby gets sent on a mission to retrieve another Index so the new ring can be activated. Ninth, wow, same thing... Tenth, Chief and Arby meet the Gravemind, he makes sure they both know that none of them really want the rings to go off, and sends each of them off to search for the Index in the two most likeliest places to find them. From there, Chief goes to High Charity to hunt down Truth while Arby meanders around on Delta Halo, trying to get to the control room to stop it from being activated.

Halo 2 definitely had more story elements inbetween levels, also, with a lot of behind-the-scenes Covenant stuff to teach us a lot more about what's going on.

Now, Halo 3 is like... First, you land on Earth and go to a base. Second, you hang out in that base. Because Miranda tells you to. Apparently, there's a plan of some sort, but you don't really get to know much about it. Third, base blows up, "The best thing to do would be to get some distance between us and the base". Okay, random driving until you find out you should go to Voi for some reason. I can't remember why you're supposed to go to Voi... Fourth, you blow up a ton of anti-air stuff so spaceships can fly around and shoot at Truth's ship, which ends up having no effect at all. Five, Truth escapes, Flood on Earth, but apparently Cortana is on the ship, so you have to go get here. Six, turns out it wasn't Cortana, but there's... something useful in the place Truth went to. You go there and explore and try to find out what the heck you're doing there. You find out where Truth went. Seven, you go to Truth and stop him. For real this time. Eight, Flood on Ark, go find Cortana. For real this time. Nine, blow up the ring.

The first four levels are definitely filler. There's no real motivation to any of them. Only The Storm is directly related to your primary task, stopping Truth, but as it turns out, nothing you did actually makes any difference. And then there's Floodgate, in which you find Cortana, but not really. Even without her recording, I think the most logical thing to do would be to still follow Truth through the portal, so that whole level also does nothing to further the story. On the Ark, your primary task is to figure out what to do. Yay, vague objective. And the last three levels are like a checklist. Find Truth, stop Truth. Find Cortana, rescue Cortana. Get to the Control Room, blow up the ring. And throughout the whole thing, we've learned nothing new about the Forerunner (not counting the terminals), nothing about the Covenant, and very little about the Flood. In fact, what with Truth's new personality, it feels more like we've unlearned some about the Covenant...

No, I liked the first two games for their gameplay and story, but Halo 3 is just fun. Not interesting..


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Criticism of Bungie storytellingphatcorns 1/25/08 6:44 p.m.
     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingSinisterSamurai 1/25/08 6:53 p.m.
           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingphatcorns 1/25/08 6:57 p.m.
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                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingserpx 1/25/08 7:04 p.m.
                       Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/25/08 7:22 p.m.
                             Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingserpx 1/25/08 7:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingGreatest Journey 1/25/08 8:41 p.m.
                                         Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingreprobate 1/25/08 9:07 p.m.
                                               Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingIbeechu 1/26/08 10:09 a.m.
                                               Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCorinthian 1/28/08 2:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCthulhu117 1/30/08 11:42 a.m.
                             Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingreprobate 1/25/08 7:46 p.m.
                                   Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingSinisterSamurai 1/25/08 9:25 p.m.
                                         Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingreprobate 1/25/08 10:28 p.m.
                                               Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 12:22 a.m.
                                                     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingRox 1/26/08 4:49 a.m.
                                                     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingreprobate 1/26/08 5:31 a.m.
                                                           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytelling *SP*Narcogen 1/26/08 8:40 a.m.
                                                           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingscarab 1/26/08 9:04 a.m.
                                                           Perhaps not...stan 1/26/08 11:20 a.m.
                                                     Wait a minute...stan 1/26/08 11:16 a.m.
                                                           Re: Wait a minute...Jillybean 1/27/08 10:37 a.m.
                                                                 What happened to your trilogy?UrsusArctos 1/27/08 7:42 p.m.
                                                                       Re: What happened to your trilogy?Jillybean 1/29/08 4:57 p.m.
                                                                             Re: What happened to your trilogy?Simpsons Rule 1/29/08 9:13 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: What happened to your trilogy?Jillybean 1/30/08 3:57 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: What happened to your trilogy?Simpsons Rule 1/30/08 8:59 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: What happened to your trilogy?Jillybean 1/30/08 12:48 p.m.
                                                     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCody Miller 1/27/08 10:35 a.m.
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                                                           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCorinthian 1/28/08 2:36 p.m.
                                               Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingGreatest Journey 1/26/08 12:26 a.m.
                                                     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingreprobate 1/26/08 6:20 a.m.
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                                   Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 12:18 a.m.
                                         Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingreprobate 1/26/08 6:08 a.m.
                                               Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 8:43 a.m.
                                   That's not really all that important...stan 1/26/08 10:39 a.m.
                                         Re: That's not really all that important...scarab 1/26/08 11:42 a.m.
                                         Re: That's not really all that important...Narcogen 1/26/08 12:55 p.m.
                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingelpolloguapo 1/25/08 9:27 p.m.
                       Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingelpolloguapo 1/25/08 9:31 p.m.
     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingPeptuck 1/25/08 9:38 p.m.
           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 12:23 a.m.
           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingscarab 1/26/08 5:00 a.m.
                 Doh! ignore ^^^^ *NM*scarab 1/26/08 5:01 a.m.
     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingGravemind 1/25/08 9:49 p.m.
           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingelpolloguapo 1/25/08 10:10 p.m.
                 RealizationDHalo 1/25/08 10:19 p.m.
                       Re: Realizationreprobate 1/25/08 10:37 p.m.
                       Re: RealizationRox 1/26/08 5:14 a.m.
                             Re: RealizationThe More Deluded 1/26/08 6:56 a.m.
                                   This seems a lil garbld reading back, bear with me *NM*The More Deluded 1/26/08 6:59 a.m.
                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 12:29 a.m.
                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingscarab 1/26/08 9:25 a.m.
                       Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCorinthian 1/28/08 2:52 p.m.
           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 12:26 a.m.
           Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingscarab 1/26/08 5:06 a.m.
                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingPeptuck 1/26/08 5:10 a.m.
                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingThe More Deluded 1/26/08 8:07 a.m.
                 Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 8:23 a.m.
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                             Hokey stories and ancient religions.Narcogen 1/26/08 12:59 p.m.
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                                                                                         ooooo!scarab 1/27/08 3:52 p.m.
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                                                                                               Re: ooooo!elpolloguapo 1/27/08 4:25 p.m.
                                                                                                     Gravemind all over again.Greatest Journey 1/27/08 9:30 p.m.
                                                                                                           Exactly what I was hinting at *NM*elpolloguapo 1/27/08 9:50 p.m.
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                                         Re: Hokey stories and ancient religions.Corinthian 1/28/08 2:59 p.m.
                                   Re: Hokey stories and ancient religions.scarab 1/27/08 9:26 a.m.
                                         The criticism should be of the pop cultureJillybean 1/27/08 10:34 a.m.
                       Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCthulhu117 1/26/08 3:31 p.m.
                             Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingelpolloguapo 1/26/08 4:00 p.m.
                                   Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingNarcogen 1/26/08 10:02 p.m.
                                         Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingelpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:16 p.m.
                             Jumps.Narcogen 1/26/08 9:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Jumps.Greatest Journey 1/26/08 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Jumps.Narcogen 1/26/08 10:15 p.m.
                                               Re: Jumps.elpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:33 p.m.
                                                     Re: Jumps.Louis Wu 1/27/08 8:54 a.m.
     The worst example is FloodgateBaratos 1/25/08 11:38 p.m.
           Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 12:31 a.m.
                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateDHalo 1/26/08 1:27 a.m.
                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 1:49 a.m.
                             Re: The worst example is FloodgateGravemind 1/26/08 2:19 a.m.
                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateKanian 1/26/08 2:21 a.m.
                                         Beastarium *NM*scarab 1/26/08 5:23 a.m.
                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 9:07 a.m.
                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 3:53 a.m.
                             Re: The worst example is FloodgateSPARTAN-034 1/26/08 11:05 a.m.
                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateThe More Deluded 1/26/08 12:13 p.m.
                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 1:48 p.m.
                                               Re: The worst example is FloodgateThe More Deluded 1/26/08 5:42 p.m.
                                                     Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 5:55 p.m.
                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 6:01 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 6:03 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 6:08 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 6:10 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 7:52 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 7:54 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 8:03 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 8:05 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 8:13 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 8:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateGravemind 1/26/08 9:54 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateSPARTAN-034 1/27/08 10:43 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/27/08 11:30 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 9:42 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/27/08 4:55 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgatescarab 1/27/08 6:42 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/27/08 9:16 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/27/08 9:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/27/08 9:25 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 9:34 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:22 p.m.
                                                                                                           Flood nature.Narcogen 1/26/08 10:42 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Flood nature.elpolloguapo 1/27/08 8:30 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Flood nature.Louis Wu 1/27/08 8:59 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Zoology has destroyed my brainJillybean 1/27/08 10:48 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Flood nature.elpolloguapo 1/27/08 11:08 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Flood nature.Narcogen 1/27/08 11:29 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Flood nature.Gravemind 1/28/08 2:22 a.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: Flood nature.Narcogen 1/28/08 8:02 a.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: Flood nature.elpolloguapo 1/28/08 3:28 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Flood nature.Narcogen 1/28/08 8:06 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Flood nature.elpolloguapo 1/28/08 9:23 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Flood nature.Narcogen 1/28/08 11:38 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Flood nature.elpolloguapo 1/29/08 6:39 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Flood nature.bedlam 1/29/08 11:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Flood nature.Narcogen 1/30/08 2:57 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Flood nature.elpolloguapo 1/28/08 3:18 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 9:31 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:24 p.m.
                                                                                               Flood Telepathy - Biological Robots?SPARTAN-034 1/27/08 11:24 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Flood Telepathy - Biological Robots?elpolloguapo 1/27/08 11:28 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Flood Telepathy - Biological Robots?Narcogen 1/27/08 11:37 p.m.
                                                                                   I wish I'd seen this earlierscarab 1/27/08 10:24 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I wish I'd seen this earlierelpolloguapo 1/27/08 11:13 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: I wish I'd seen this earlierscarab 1/27/08 12:45 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: I wish I'd seen this earlierelpolloguapo 1/27/08 1:45 p.m.
                                                           Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 8:51 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:25 p.m.
                                                                       That is a good questionscarab 1/27/08 10:42 a.m.
                                                                             Re: That is a good questionelpolloguapo 1/27/08 11:24 a.m.
                                                                             Re: That is a good questionNarcogen 1/27/08 11:41 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/27/08 11:39 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/28/08 3:31 p.m.
                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateGravemind 1/26/08 2:23 a.m.
                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateBlueNinja 1/26/08 4:34 a.m.
                 Re: The worst example is Floodgatescarab 1/26/08 5:21 a.m.
                       Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 3:19 p.m.
                             Re: The worst example is FloodgateCharley117 1/26/08 3:27 p.m.
                                   Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 3:41 p.m.
                                         Re: The worst example is FloodgateCharley117 1/26/08 3:49 p.m.
                                               Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 3:54 p.m.
                                                     Re: The worst example is FloodgateCharley117 1/26/08 4:02 p.m.
                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 4:09 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateCharley117 1/26/08 4:18 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 4:30 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateCthulhu117 1/26/08 4:46 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 5:52 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The worst example is FloodgateCthulhu117 1/26/08 5:59 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 6:02 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/26/08 6:03 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 6:06 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/26/08 6:16 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 7:04 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The worst example is Floodgatebedlam 1/30/08 12:04 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 7:05 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/30/08 7:35 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 10:10 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateDelicious Pie 1/30/08 10:19 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 11:05 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The worst example is FloodgateGrimlock 1/30/08 1:41 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/30/08 2:10 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 3:57 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/30/08 4:33 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 4:42 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/31/08 5:44 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/31/08 6:33 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/31/08 10:07 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 2/1/08 8:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 2/1/08 8:55 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 2/1/08 9:09 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateCody Miller 1/30/08 12:30 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgatebedlam 1/30/08 4:42 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 4:47 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/31/08 5:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgatebedlam 2/1/08 1:24 a.m.
                                                                       Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 9:58 p.m.
                                                     Yeah that... *NM*rhubarb 1/26/08 5:47 p.m.
                                               Re: The worst example is Floodgaterhubarb 1/26/08 5:45 p.m.
                                                     Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 5:53 p.m.
                                                     Re: The worst example is FloodgateGravemind 1/26/08 6:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 7:00 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateGravemind 1/26/08 7:51 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 7:58 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The worst example is FloodgateGravemind 1/26/08 8:56 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/26/08 10:28 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The worst example is FloodgateDarkendes 1/27/08 4:11 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/27/08 8:32 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/27/08 9:02 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is FloodgateGrimlock 1/27/08 9:38 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The worst example is FloodgateLouis Wu 1/27/08 10:31 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Exactly *NM*elpolloguapo 1/27/08 11:09 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/27/08 11:45 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/28/08 3:14 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The worst example is Floodgatebedlam 1/30/08 12:24 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: The worst example is Floodgateelpolloguapo 1/30/08 7:08 a.m.
                                   Re: The worst example is FloodgateNarcogen 1/26/08 9:50 p.m.
           Re: The worst example is- Half-Life spoilersreprobate 1/26/08 6:41 a.m.
           Re: The worst example is FloodgateThe More Deluded 1/26/08 8:13 a.m.
           Types of immersionCody Miller 1/26/08 2:02 p.m.
                 Re: Types of immersionCharley117 1/26/08 3:25 p.m.
                       Re: Types of immersionelpolloguapo 1/26/08 3:56 p.m.
                             Re: Types of immersionCharley117 1/26/08 4:06 p.m.
                                   Random comment...Charley117 1/26/08 4:07 p.m.
                                         Re: Random comment...elpolloguapo 1/26/08 4:11 p.m.
                                               Re: Random comment...Charley117 1/26/08 4:19 p.m.
                                                     Re: Random comment...elpolloguapo 1/26/08 4:32 p.m.
                                                           Re: Random comment...Charley117 1/26/08 4:51 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Random comment...elpolloguapo 1/26/08 5:51 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Random comment...Narcogen 1/26/08 10:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Types of immersionRagashingo 1/27/08 3:13 a.m.
                       Re: Types of immersionCody Miller 1/26/08 8:57 p.m.
     Re: Criticism of Bungie storytellingCody Miller 1/26/08 3:29 a.m.
     Holy amazement...stan 1/26/08 5:57 p.m.
           Re: Holy amazement...elpolloguapo 1/26/08 6:03 p.m.
                 Re: Holy amazement...Louis Wu 1/26/08 6:04 p.m.
                       Re: Holy amazement...elpolloguapo 1/26/08 6:07 p.m.
     Now, see...Cthulhu117 1/26/08 6:03 p.m.
           Re: Now, see...Greatest Journey 1/26/08 7:31 p.m.
                 Re: Now, see...elpolloguapo 1/26/08 7:58 p.m.
                       Re: Now, see...Greatest Journey 1/26/08 9:42 p.m.
                       Re: Now, see...Grimlock 1/27/08 9:39 a.m.
     Here's why: there Are *NO* Establishing ShotsEpyon MX 1/27/08 3:43 p.m.
           Re: Here's why: there Are *NO* Establishing Shotselpolloguapo 1/27/08 3:50 p.m.
                 Re: Here's why: there Are *NO* Establishing ShotsEpyon MX 1/27/08 5:12 p.m.
                       Re: Here's why: there Are *NO* Establishing Shotselpolloguapo 1/27/08 6:08 p.m.
                       Re: Here's why: there Are *NO* Establishing ShotsOmega 1/27/08 6:08 p.m.
                             Excellent workEpyon MX 1/27/08 6:38 p.m.
                                   Re: Excellent workOmega 1/27/08 11:37 p.m.
           Re: Here's why: there Are *NO* Establishing ShotsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/27/08 4:44 p.m.
                 What I get for a belligerent tone :pEpyon MX 1/27/08 5:21 p.m.
                       Re: What I get for a belligerent tone :pelpolloguapo 1/27/08 6:04 p.m.
                       Re: What I get for a belligerent tone :pStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/27/08 9:22 p.m.
     Has anyone EVER had 63 posts in one thread?!?!pooberry (Max Power) 1/27/08 5:16 p.m.
     "Look at point of interest"Red_Breast 1/27/08 6:10 p.m.
           Re: "Look at point of interest"elpolloguapo 1/27/08 7:26 p.m.
                 Re: "Look at point of interest"Cthulhu117 1/27/08 7:36 p.m.
                       Re: "Look at point of interest"elpolloguapo 1/27/08 8:08 p.m.
                             Wow, this must be the biggest thread here.. *NM*J23 1/28/08 3:34 p.m.
     Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameCiarán 1/29/08 11:23 a.m.
           Wow.BlueNinja 1/29/08 2:21 p.m.
           AKA the best partelpolloguapo 1/29/08 2:59 p.m.
           Re: Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameGrimlock 1/30/08 8:47 a.m.
                 Re: Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameelpolloguapo 1/30/08 10:12 a.m.
                       Re: Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameGrimlock 1/30/08 1:52 p.m.
                             Re: Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameelpolloguapo 1/30/08 3:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameInnerRayg 1/30/08 4:48 p.m.
                                         Re: Discovering the Halo Story: the meta-meta-gameGrimlock 1/30/08 9:57 p.m.
           Well-written!Leviathan 1/30/08 2:53 p.m.



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