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Re: It's outright carelessness.
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>	Date: 9/20/10 5:21 a.m.
In Response To: Re: It's outright carelessness. (Bry) : Well... 9 years not being touched, a whole new generation of hardware and : being a fair few software generations into that hardwares life... It was : never going to be the same. : It was still Bungie's Halo swansong and I just let myself be swept up in the : moment. : Have to admit, my first thoughts was that it looked amazing and it was nice : to see Bungie being able to give the ship some real love after the : limitations of the Xbox and original Halo engine. : But in the back of my mind, I knew you'd be unhappy about it, especially : having worked so hard on documents of the original version, and making : your model. : This is just what happens in games though. Sticking in the original geometry : and textures from the Halo on the final screen was a nice touch in the far : distance where the low resolution textures were less apparent. : That was one thing, but if they had left the original PoA in the game, it : would have looked totally out of place and pretty darn awful. : Its a lot easier with TV or movies, where the transition from models to CGI : is usually a lot less jarring. : But games and graphics are always improving. : They are simply not the place to look for total visual consistency and they : probably never will be. : That's why I've said concept art or CGI renders are worth keeping in mind for : these things, where there are no polygon constraints and the original : vision can be laid down before being hacked back into something workable : within game. It's a total makeover is the problem. Shapes, compartments, even a silhouette wouldn't look the same. Have you given the ship a good look over? You say "it was nice to see Bungie being able to give the ship some real love after the limitations of the Xbox and original Halo engine". I'll give you the smallest examplet hat this is not the case. Recall in my earliest articles that the Autumn's interior couldn't fit the exterior? With the new redesign, the area behind the bridge is much more narrow now and I don't think even the messhall would be sticking out now!

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I think we hold the books in too high a regard.	Riceatron	9/19/10 2:28 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 2:41 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Riceatron	9/19/10 2:42 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 10:56 a.m.
*SP in my post*	Avateur	9/19/10 11:06 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	The BS Police	9/19/10 2:50 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	DHalo	9/19/10 2:54 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	scarab	9/19/10 2:56 p.m.
That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/19/10 4:23 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Louis Wu	9/19/10 5:31 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 5:53 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 5:56 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	The BS Police	9/19/10 6:11 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:10 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/19/10 8:16 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:07 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 11:03 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 12:40 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 12:58 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 1:08 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	kapowaz	9/20/10 5:53 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:14 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 5:42 p.m.
I agree *SP	Injunfett	9/19/10 6:35 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 5:12 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/20/10 7:16 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 8:31 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/20/10 8:46 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:19 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 1:08 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:51 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 6:14 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/21/10 9:12 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/21/10 3:15 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/21/10 4:47 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/21/10 5:52 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	kapowaz	9/20/10 5:43 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 3:26 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	uberfoop	9/19/10 4:03 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	scarab	9/19/10 5:17 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	SonofMacPhisto	9/19/10 4:29 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Bry	9/19/10 4:52 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Avateur	9/19/10 4:33 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 5:20 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:57 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Avateur	9/20/10 11:05 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:56 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	thebruce0	9/21/10 9:15 a.m.
I agree wholeheartedly.	NobleSixActual	9/19/10 4:07 a.m.
Games > Novels	Riceatron	9/19/10 5:24 a.m.
Re: Games > Novels	YNation913	9/19/10 10:04 a.m.
Re: Games > Novels	Crab	9/19/10 4:13 p.m.
Re: Games > Novels	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:39 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	mattroe	9/19/10 5:37 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	NobleSixActual	9/19/10 5:47 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	scarab	9/19/10 5:57 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	mattroe	9/19/10 6:03 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:00 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Bry	9/19/10 11:13 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:19 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	dizzy	9/19/10 8:23 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Azo 'Galvat	9/19/10 8:28 a.m.
It's not just The Fall of Reach	The BS Police	9/19/10 2:46 p.m.
Re: It's not just The Fall of Reach	Eddy 071	9/19/10 4:05 p.m.
Re: It's not just The Fall of Reach	The BS Police	9/19/10 5:58 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Bry	9/19/10 9:28 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:05 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Jinno	9/19/10 11:35 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Quirel	9/19/10 11:37 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 1:14 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Xmoosev3	9/19/10 8:27 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	General Battuta	9/19/10 8:34 a.m.
It's all about consistency. *SP*	SPARTAN-034	9/19/10 8:37 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 9:35 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 10:53 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 11:02 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:14 a.m.
Well, duh.	Riceatron	9/19/10 12:51 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Bry	9/19/10 2:51 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 3:02 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Bry	9/19/10 3:37 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:28 p.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Azo 'Galvat	9/19/10 12:53 p.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 1:21 p.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 2:04 p.m.
'We'? Didn't know we had a hive mind.	Leviathan	9/19/10 10:21 a.m.
Re: 'We'? Didn't know we had a hive mind.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:08 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Kermit	9/19/10 11:12 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Bry	9/19/10 11:24 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 1:10 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Kermit	9/20/10 10:00 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:55 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Quirel	9/19/10 11:56 a.m.
Halo's just gotten too big for its britches	free	9/19/10 2:12 p.m.
It's outright carelessness.	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 3:46 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 4:22 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:34 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	free	9/19/10 4:30 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:47 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 6:54 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:59 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	free	9/19/10 7:35 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 9:52 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	YNation913	9/19/10 8:34 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 10:03 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 10:20 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	uberfoop	9/19/10 10:39 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:21 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/20/10 9:13 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:39 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/20/10 7:06 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 9:24 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/20/10 11:33 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Quirel	9/20/10 11:50 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	uberfoop	9/21/10 12:09 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/21/10 12:15 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/21/10 6:36 a.m.
This. *NM*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:24 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	BanditORR	9/19/10 3:03 p.m.
A longer term fan's perspective	reprobate	9/19/10 8:54 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	dizzy	9/20/10 12:04 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Louis Wu	9/20/10 12:40 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 1:20 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Louis Wu	9/20/10 1:52 p.m.
A fair point. *NM*	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 2:06 p.m.
Re: A fair point.	The Loot	9/20/10 3:05 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Kermit	9/20/10 2:13 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	uberfoop	9/20/10 3:28 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 2:33 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	dizzy	9/20/10 2:48 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 2:58 p.m.
Wait... what?	Louis Wu	9/20/10 3:53 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Leviathan	9/20/10 4:47 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	dizzy	9/20/10 6:27 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Leviathan	9/20/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 6:50 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 6:57 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Kermit	9/20/10 5:21 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Quirel	9/20/10 6:20 p.m.
I was talking to Stephen in-game.	Riceatron	9/19/10 10:04 p.m.
What I've learned from all this...	Gravemind	9/20/10 7:21 a.m.
I feel the same way. *NM* *NM*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 8:33 a.m.
Yep. This.	Hawaiian Pig	9/20/10 3:07 p.m.
Re: Yep. This.	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 4:06 p.m.
No, you didn't.	Kermit	9/20/10 4:53 p.m.
Re: No, you didn't.	Gravemind	9/20/10 5:51 p.m.
Re: No, you didn't.	Quirel	9/20/10 6:00 p.m.