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Re: It's outright carelessness.
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>	Date: 9/19/10 6:34 p.m.
In Response To: Re: It's outright carelessness. (Bry) : Unless you weren't particularly fond of the early novels to begin with. : And there are fans that feel that way.That don't consider FoR to be the : definition of awesomeness ensuing. : Even if they do tend to be more quiet than the ones that adore them, if for : no other reason than not being utterly in love with them can be seen as a : cardinal sin. : Or to say that you preferred The Flood over Fall of Reach and First Strike. : That's almost criminal amongst some of the fandom. : I got into the 'hardcore' area of the fandom much later than most I imagine. : About Spring 2006 where it served as some escapism from some pretty crappy : times. And 2010 has found me deeply back into more crappy times, but : nevermind that. : So I was quite familiar with both Halo and Halo 2 before reading the novels, : rather than having read FoR back in 2001/2. : For that reason, it didn't have the same impact on me, nor was it ever in a : position to try and define what the Halo Universe was meant to be. : For example, reading FoR for the first time, I came to the bit about how : human ships needed rotating sections to generate gravity and immediately : thought "What the Hell? That's nothing like Halo CE or Halo 2." : So I never fully trusted it, and this has left me rather more keen for events : in it to be altered. : Heck, I hoped Bungie would take the chance with Reach to make changes and : address things that didn't sit right with the novel. : In a way, I suppose they did that, though not in the way I imagined. : I am happier that the UNSC has been beefed up a bit. A Frigate can last for a : while against a Corvette and UNSC Starfighters/bombers are more than a : match for Seraphs, the new 'Space Banshees' and a credible threat to small : capital ships. : Perhaps the bigger problem is the indecision when Bungie say they did take : great care, or when Frankie says it will all make sense. : The only thing I would wish is that we would have an out right statement: : Some things have changed, yes we've made some solid retcons. I also read the 3 original novels after I'd played Halo 1, around the time I played Halo 2, and I still see the 'official' novels as canonical as the games. Yes, some things don't mesh, but it was FAR less back then than we have now.

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I think we hold the books in too high a regard.	Riceatron	9/19/10 2:28 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 2:41 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Riceatron	9/19/10 2:42 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 10:56 a.m.
*SP in my post*	Avateur	9/19/10 11:06 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	The BS Police	9/19/10 2:50 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	DHalo	9/19/10 2:54 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	scarab	9/19/10 2:56 p.m.
That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/19/10 4:23 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Louis Wu	9/19/10 5:31 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 5:53 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 5:56 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	The BS Police	9/19/10 6:11 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:10 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/19/10 8:16 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:07 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 11:03 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 12:40 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 12:58 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 1:08 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	kapowaz	9/20/10 5:53 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:14 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 5:42 p.m.
I agree *SP	Injunfett	9/19/10 6:35 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 5:12 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/20/10 7:16 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 8:31 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Bry	9/20/10 8:46 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:19 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 1:08 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:51 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/20/10 6:14 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/21/10 9:12 a.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/21/10 3:15 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	thebruce0	9/21/10 4:47 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	Avateur	9/21/10 5:52 p.m.
Re: That's stupid from a gaming standpoint *SP*	kapowaz	9/20/10 5:43 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 3:26 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	uberfoop	9/19/10 4:03 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	scarab	9/19/10 5:17 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	SonofMacPhisto	9/19/10 4:29 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Bry	9/19/10 4:52 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Avateur	9/19/10 4:33 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 5:20 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:57 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Avateur	9/20/10 11:05 a.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:56 p.m.
Re: *SP in my post*	thebruce0	9/21/10 9:15 a.m.
I agree wholeheartedly.	NobleSixActual	9/19/10 4:07 a.m.
Games > Novels	Riceatron	9/19/10 5:24 a.m.
Re: Games > Novels	YNation913	9/19/10 10:04 a.m.
Re: Games > Novels	Crab	9/19/10 4:13 p.m.
Re: Games > Novels	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:39 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	mattroe	9/19/10 5:37 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	NobleSixActual	9/19/10 5:47 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	scarab	9/19/10 5:57 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	mattroe	9/19/10 6:03 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:00 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Bry	9/19/10 11:13 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:19 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	dizzy	9/19/10 8:23 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Azo 'Galvat	9/19/10 8:28 a.m.
It's not just The Fall of Reach	The BS Police	9/19/10 2:46 p.m.
Re: It's not just The Fall of Reach	Eddy 071	9/19/10 4:05 p.m.
Re: It's not just The Fall of Reach	The BS Police	9/19/10 5:58 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Bry	9/19/10 9:28 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:05 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Jinno	9/19/10 11:35 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Quirel	9/19/10 11:37 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 1:14 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Xmoosev3	9/19/10 8:27 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	General Battuta	9/19/10 8:34 a.m.
It's all about consistency. *SP*	SPARTAN-034	9/19/10 8:37 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 9:35 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 10:53 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 11:02 a.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:14 a.m.
Well, duh.	Riceatron	9/19/10 12:51 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Bry	9/19/10 2:51 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 3:02 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Bry	9/19/10 3:37 p.m.
Re: Well, duh.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:28 p.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Azo 'Galvat	9/19/10 12:53 p.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 1:21 p.m.
Re: It's all about consistency. *SP*	Bry	9/19/10 2:04 p.m.
'We'? Didn't know we had a hive mind.	Leviathan	9/19/10 10:21 a.m.
Re: 'We'? Didn't know we had a hive mind.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 11:08 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Kermit	9/19/10 11:12 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Bry	9/19/10 11:24 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 1:10 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Kermit	9/20/10 10:00 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:55 p.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	Quirel	9/19/10 11:56 a.m.
Halo's just gotten too big for its britches	free	9/19/10 2:12 p.m.
It's outright carelessness.	Hawaiian Pig	9/19/10 3:46 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 4:22 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:34 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	free	9/19/10 4:30 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:47 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 6:54 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 6:59 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	free	9/19/10 7:35 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 9:52 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	YNation913	9/19/10 8:34 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/19/10 10:03 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/19/10 10:20 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	uberfoop	9/19/10 10:39 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:21 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/20/10 9:13 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 5:39 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/20/10 7:06 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 9:24 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/20/10 11:33 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Quirel	9/20/10 11:50 p.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	uberfoop	9/21/10 12:09 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Bry	9/21/10 12:15 a.m.
Re: It's outright carelessness.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/21/10 6:36 a.m.
This. *NM*	thebruce0	9/20/10 10:24 a.m.
Re: I think we hold the books in too high a regard	BanditORR	9/19/10 3:03 p.m.
A longer term fan's perspective	reprobate	9/19/10 8:54 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	dizzy	9/20/10 12:04 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Louis Wu	9/20/10 12:40 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 1:20 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Louis Wu	9/20/10 1:52 p.m.
A fair point. *NM*	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 2:06 p.m.
Re: A fair point.	The Loot	9/20/10 3:05 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Kermit	9/20/10 2:13 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	uberfoop	9/20/10 3:28 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 2:33 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	dizzy	9/20/10 2:48 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 2:58 p.m.
Wait... what?	Louis Wu	9/20/10 3:53 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Leviathan	9/20/10 4:47 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	dizzy	9/20/10 6:27 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Leviathan	9/20/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 6:44 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/20/10 6:50 p.m.
Re: Wait... what?	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/20/10 6:57 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Kermit	9/20/10 5:21 p.m.
Re: A longer term fan's perspective	Quirel	9/20/10 6:20 p.m.
I was talking to Stephen in-game.	Riceatron	9/19/10 10:04 p.m.
What I've learned from all this...	Gravemind	9/20/10 7:21 a.m.
I feel the same way. *NM* *NM*	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 8:33 a.m.
Yep. This.	Hawaiian Pig	9/20/10 3:07 p.m.
Re: Yep. This.	LionoftheMorning	9/20/10 4:06 p.m.
No, you didn't.	Kermit	9/20/10 4:53 p.m.
Re: No, you didn't.	Gravemind	9/20/10 5:51 p.m.
Re: No, you didn't.	Quirel	9/20/10 6:00 p.m.