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| Re: You people are confusing me. | |
| Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net> | Date: 6/14/11 1:14 a.m. |
In Response To: You people are confusing me. (Louis Wu) : So I missed all this conversation last week, when it raged, because I was a : little busy. But I'm catching up now, and I'm confused: it seems that : everyone (well, most people) are assuming that this trailer begins right : where Halo 3's Legendary ending ends up. : Why? Because if not, it's even clumsier than I think it is. Which is saying a lot. : There was no open Arc-like disc on the surface of the planet we saw in Halo 3
There is not nearly enough consistency in the appearance of large artifacts in the Halo universe to distinguish between two unknown objects displayed for very short periods of time in extremely similar circumstances. The surface of the underside of the Halo rings, for instance, is very inconsistent between the games, and is different again now in what we've seen of HCEA. This does not mean they are different rings, it just means the artists have changed things. Others have pointed out how the PoA is dramatically different from game to game, and the FUD wreckage as well. If we're to believe that this artifact is not the same as what we've been shown, we might as well believe that the ship he's on is not the FUD, but an entirely different ship, with an entirely different cryotube, that just happens also to have been ripped in half by whatever other dramatic events happened between then and now that we aren't being shown. I think people have concluded that this is, if not "right after" the events of the Legendary ending in terms of time-- the gap might well be years or longer-- it is the next thing of consequence to the plot that happens, because the last significant thing we saw was Chief going back into the tube, and the first thing of significance we see here is Chief coming out of the tube, and as actions they symbolize Bungie finishing their story about Master Chief and 343i starting their own. Any significant intervening action mars the parallel to the point of making it worthless to even bother-- in my opinion. : So why can't it be YEARS after that ending? Why can't 343 be producing a
They could. For what possible purpose? Why intentionally make a trailer that looks so much : My VERY FIRST REACTION when I watched the trailer was "holy crap, this
I think that's called "rationalization". We wish the Haloverse to be consistent, so when presented with an apparent inconsistency, we arrive at an otherwise unsupported conclusion that makes the apparent inconsistency disappear. Again-- this was not a mistake. This was deliberate. I don't think they're unaware. They're trying to have their cake and eat it, too. They wanted the jetpack, for whatever reason, and they wanted to ride on the coattails of Halo 3's ending. I think the attempt is the mistake, not the details of the suit, because those details largely don't interest me. : How come everyone else is betting on 343's worst? Depends on what you mean by betting. I'd have to dig deep to find them, but I was actually fairly skeptical about Bungie being able to pull off a AAA shooter on a console, given that cutting-edge graphics really was never their thing. Even Marathon was more of a slight evolution over the look of Doom, with the improvements mostly in the area of story and design rather than pixel-pushing power. I am cautiously skeptical of any non-Bungie group, no matter how constituted, to successfully balance making fresh and new games based on the Halo property while also maintaining enough consistency to still look and feel like Halo to those who are confident that they know what Halo should look and feel like. Some are laser-focused on minor details; others only interested in the big picture. I think the Haloverse, however broadly described, was created to tell the story that Halo 1-3 tells, and that story is over. I'm open to being convinced that Halo 4 has a story that needs to be told, instead of just one that can be told. I'm open to being convinced that 343i can tell this story with the same level of excellence to which we are accustomed. The trailer makes me feel less open towards these possibilities, not more open, and I am attempting to enumerate and describe why. The jets themselves are of little importance, as are most of the Haloverse's purely technical details, at least, to me.
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