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— INTERMISSION —
Posted By: kapowaz <halo.bungie.org@kapowaz.net>	Date: 6/13/11 11:28 a.m.
In Response To: You people are confusing me. (Louis Wu) So I missed all this conversation last week, when it raged, because I was a little busy. But I'm catching up now, and I'm confused: it seems that everyone (well, most people) are assuming that this trailer begins right where Halo 3's Legendary ending ends up. Why? There was no open Arc-like disc on the surface of the planet we saw in Halo 3 - and the ship wasn't plummeting to the surface at that point. So CLEARLY it's not RIGHT after that ending. So why can't it be YEARS after that ending? Why can't 343 be producing a trailer that LOOKS like a similar time and locale, but actually represents a completely different situation? In fact, wouldn't doing that cause the large amount of discussion at an early date? Might that not be what they're striving to do with this trailer? I was sure Frankie had actually talked a little about this at E3, and although I can't find the precise article where he discussed it that I'd seen before, I did find this quote from him in a video interview with IGN: IGN: Halo 4, Master Chief is back. Can you remind people, where did we leave off after Halo 3 Frankie: It depends if you finished it on normal or legendary, right. So if you finished on Legendary you'll have seen the chief, frozen in cryosleep, approaching at the very end a very, very mysterious dark world. We pick up, not exactly where that left off, some time has passed between the events of Halo 3 and the beginning of Halo 4, and a lot of things have changed, and some people have noticed some things have changed in that intervening period. Now, what he says is somewhat ambiguous and perhaps misleading. You could interpret it that some time has passed between the events at the end of Halo 3 and the start of Halo 4, or you could argue that some time has passed between the end of the legendary cinematic at the end of Halo 3 and the start of Halo 4. These are different statements, but I think the former is more likely true — the fact that a significant period of time has passed since the end of the Human–Covenant War is the crucial point; not that the remains of the Forward Unto Dawn spent a long time sat in space next to a (potentially) Forerunner world of some sort, during which time not a lot of significance happened. I don't think it makes a lot of sense from a storytelling perspective to have two long chunks of time pass by without there being some significance to the midpoint. My interpretation of the trailer and timeline is this: that a long time has passed since the end of the war, and the remains of the Forward Unto Dawn have encountered a Forerunner artefact of some kind. During that time, maybe Cortana got busy and modified the chief's suit, but the teaser trailer picks up with the next significant event: the Forward Unto Dawn rapidly hurtling towards the Forerunner artefact, upon which some sort of orifice has opened up, apparently about to swallow the Forward Unto Dawn. That all said, there is some ambiguity to how Frankie explained it that could mean that yes, the FUD had indeed spent a long time right by that artefact, sat there doing nothing, with Master Chief catching Zs in a cryotube. But frankly that's just not interesting enough to be worth giving much thought to.

Message Index

IGN Halo Anniversary vid live now	GrimBrother One	6/7/11 7:25 p.m.
Re: IGN Halo Anniversary vid live now	Dani	6/7/11 7:29 p.m.
Interesting Frankie Quote	GrimBrother One	6/7/11 7:37 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/7/11 8:31 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	TDSpiral	6/7/11 8:37 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/7/11 8:57 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	TDSpiral	6/8/11 12:07 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 2:17 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/8/11 3:46 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 4:00 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Bry	6/8/11 6:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:06 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/8/11 6:30 a.m.
Suggestion?	Leisandir	6/8/11 10:52 a.m.
Agreed! *NM*	Lurono	6/9/11 3:09 a.m.
This post perfectly sums up what's wrong.	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:45 a.m.
Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narcogen.	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:46 a.m.
Re: Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narco	Archilen	6/8/11 11:49 a.m.
Re: Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narco	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/8/11 2:17 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 2:28 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/8/11 6:53 p.m.
second'd *NM*	Leisandir	6/8/11 7:20 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:08 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 7:55 a.m.
And to be honest...	DHalo	6/9/11 8:17 a.m.
Re: And to be honest...	Narcogen	6/10/11 4:12 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 4:08 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	General Vagueness	6/9/11 5:53 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 8:45 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/9/11 9:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 9:35 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 1:57 a.m.
Oh! I see what the problem is.	Leisandir	6/9/11 10:01 a.m.
Re: Oh! I see what the problem is.	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:11 a.m.
Re: Oh! I see what the problem is.	Leisandir	6/10/11 7:58 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 1:49 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 6:21 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/10/11 9:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 10:22 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/10/11 10:38 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 10:47 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/13/11 2:49 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 5:24 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/13/11 7:41 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DEEP NNN	6/13/11 7:56 p.m.
You're Doing It Wrong *NM*	The Loot	6/13/11 10:03 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 2:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/14/11 3:26 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 4:29 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/14/11 11:35 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/15/11 3:03 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:36 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:32 a.m.
You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:01 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:15 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 11:17 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	excowboy83	6/13/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 12:24 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 1:10 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 1:35 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 2:47 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 3:51 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:21 a.m.
Wat.	Leisandir	6/13/11 1:39 p.m.
Re: Wat.	Bones153	6/13/11 2:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Quirel	6/13/11 4:57 p.m.
— INTERMISSION —	kapowaz	6/13/11 11:28 a.m.
Re: — INTERMISSION —	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Captain Spark	6/13/11 12:28 p.m.
I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 12:30 p.m.
Just thought I'd add...	Sl'askia	6/13/11 12:37 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Document	6/13/11 12:47 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 1:00 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	bluerunner	6/13/11 1:08 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 1:21 p.m.
I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:47 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	BlueNinja	6/13/11 4:32 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Louis Wu	6/13/11 4:54 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	BlueNinja	6/13/11 5:28 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Leviathan	6/13/11 5:50 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 4:03 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 5:06 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 6:03 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:21 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 6:27 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:29 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:17 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 6:48 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 7:10 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 7:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 8:02 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 9:55 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 11:13 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 11:50 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:06 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	mnemesis	6/14/11 12:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:36 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/14/11 7:21 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 1:22 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/14/11 1:38 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 2:30 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 2:28 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/14/11 12:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:44 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 6:19 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 6:26 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 6:55 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Leviathan	6/14/11 9:46 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 2:31 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	General Vagueness	6/14/11 1:15 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 3:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	General Vagueness	6/15/11 10:09 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/17/11 1:37 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 1:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/14/11 10:33 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 6:51 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:14 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Cody Miller	6/14/11 1:26 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:42 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:46 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 5:05 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Leisandir	6/9/11 10:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:23 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 5:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 9:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/9/11 12:02 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 6:28 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:13 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	nomis78	6/13/11 2:43 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/13/11 8:07 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/9/11 11:14 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:36 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/10/11 9:44 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:07 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:21 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:30 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:42 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DarkS7G	6/13/11 11:55 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/13/11 11:59 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 12:04 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/13/11 12:22 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:16 p.m.
I choose to believe this as well.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 1:37 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	bluerunner	6/13/11 1:50 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	Beckx	6/13/11 3:20 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:53 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 12:58 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/14/11 1:29 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:44 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 12:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/8/11 7:25 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:43 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	SPARTAN-034	6/14/11 3:59 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/14/11 4:33 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Frankie	6/14/11 8:09 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 8:16 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Frankie	6/14/11 8:22 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Avateur	6/14/11 8:39 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/14/11 9:17 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 9:28 p.m.
In other news...	GrimBrother One	6/14/11 10:31 p.m.
Re: In other news...	mnemesis	6/14/11 10:55 p.m.
Re: In other news...	macgyver10	6/15/11 1:16 a.m.
AM I DOIN IT RITE?	AngelicLionheart	6/14/11 10:07 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	macgyver10	6/15/11 1:18 a.m.
Well, sufficiently advanced technology and all. :P	SPARTAN-034	6/14/11 11:50 p.m.
Love it! Make it happen 343i *NM*	scarab	6/8/11 12:57 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	The BS Police	6/8/11 8:13 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 8:18 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	scarab	6/8/11 10:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Armour perms?)	DEEP NNN	6/8/11 9:19 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Armour perms?)	Revenant1988	6/8/11 10:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	General Vagueness	6/9/11 5:12 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/9/11 5:41 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	frankie	6/7/11 8:58 p.m.
Do Sangheili even have Molars? *NM*	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/8/11 6:13 a.m.
well...	kidtsunami	6/7/11 8:48 p.m.
Re: well...	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: well...	Chewbeccawacca	6/7/11 9:11 p.m.
Re: well...	BanditORR	6/7/11 10:45 p.m.
Re: well...	Dagoonite	6/8/11 3:11 a.m.
Re: well...	Chewbeccawacca	6/10/11 12:18 p.m.
Re: well...	Louis Wu	6/13/11 10:48 a.m.
Interesting Theory	NsU Soldier	6/13/11 11:44 a.m.
CONFIRMED!	padraig08	6/13/11 12:37 p.m.
Pre-order = DONE! *NM*	Mazz	6/13/11 12:44 p.m.
FURTHER CONFIRMED!	Lekku	6/13/11 1:04 p.m.
Re: FURTHER CONFIRMED!	NsU Soldier	6/13/11 1:53 p.m.
Re: CONFIRMED!	Captain Spark	6/13/11 2:52 p.m.
I've never actually considered this until now.	TCKaos	6/7/11 9:24 p.m.
Note: Don't think about something so much that ...	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:43 p.m.
Re: Heh, I knew there'd be a reason...	Tighclops	6/7/11 10:23 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/8/11 3:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	speak2al	6/10/11 6:56 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/10/11 7:25 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Mazz	6/10/11 8:06 a.m.
Re: Packing heat.	Hedgemony	6/10/11 8:16 a.m.
Re: Packing heat.	bluerunner	6/10/11 9:02 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Myyke	6/10/11 8:17 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/10/11 8:53 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/10/11 9:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Myyke	6/10/11 9:14 a.m.