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Re: You people are confusing me.
Posted By: Louis Wu <halo@bungie.org>	Date: 6/13/11 5:06 p.m.
In Response To: Re: You people are confusing me. (uberfoop) : The discussions here over the past week shed plenty light on that. Plenty of : people think that E3 blew the chance they were giving 343i to impress. : Namely, in a nutshell, things like: -The visual and audio style of CEA so : far seems less effective to the original, and particularly in the visual : business demonstrates disregard and possibly a lack of understanding of : what worked about the aesthetics of the original game anyway. Okay, this is an opinion. Not one I hold, but hey, everyone's entitled to their own. : -Namedropping "John" in the Halo 4 trailer takes a massive symbolic : dump on one of the most potent moments in the original trilogy, and : further demonstrates that 343i doesn't actually have a very good : understanding of what they're working with. I read the thread that argued this, and the whole time I was shaking my head. : -No Halo 1 online multiplayer in CEA. Keeping in mind of course that having : this on console, and having it with good netcode on any platform, is : something that many people have wanted for 10 years, and is also something : that many community members consider better than what we have today. I'm pretty sure that every single person at 343 would love to have this too. It just looks like it wasn't feasible in the timeframe they had. They're not giving you a pony, either - are you taking brownie points away for that, too? : Whether these complaints, and others like them, are entirely fair or not : can perhaps be called into question. But that expectations of 343i : plummeted for many people isn't particularly surprising or confusing IMO. Okay. You STILL haven't answered my original question, though (well, the implied one): Why are so many people who've been here for long enough for me to BELIEVE I had a handle on their level of insightfulness making so many snap judgements all at once? I am totally not invested in whether you (or anyone else) loves these games. I'm not even invested in whether they do well or not (though I have friends at 343, so I'd LIKE them to do well for those people's sake). I'm just surprised to see so many people that I thought I understood making statements and judgements that I don't understand. That is - judgements based on information too sparse to warrant judgement. That's all.

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IGN Halo Anniversary vid live now	GrimBrother One	6/7/11 7:25 p.m.
Re: IGN Halo Anniversary vid live now	Dani	6/7/11 7:29 p.m.
Interesting Frankie Quote	GrimBrother One	6/7/11 7:37 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/7/11 8:31 p.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Bry	6/8/11 6:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:06 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/8/11 6:30 a.m.
Suggestion?	Leisandir	6/8/11 10:52 a.m.
Agreed! *NM*	Lurono	6/9/11 3:09 a.m.
This post perfectly sums up what's wrong.	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:45 a.m.
Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narcogen.	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:46 a.m.
Re: Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narco	Archilen	6/8/11 11:49 a.m.
Re: Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narco	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:52 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 2:28 p.m.
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second'd *NM*	Leisandir	6/8/11 7:20 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:08 a.m.
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And to be honest...	DHalo	6/9/11 8:17 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 1:57 a.m.
Oh! I see what the problem is.	Leisandir	6/9/11 10:01 a.m.
Re: Oh! I see what the problem is.	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:11 a.m.
Re: Oh! I see what the problem is.	Leisandir	6/10/11 7:58 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 1:49 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/13/11 7:41 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DEEP NNN	6/13/11 7:56 p.m.
You're Doing It Wrong *NM*	The Loot	6/13/11 10:03 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 2:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/14/11 3:26 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/15/11 3:03 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:36 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:32 a.m.
You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:01 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:15 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 11:17 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	excowboy83	6/13/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 12:24 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 1:10 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 1:35 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 2:47 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 3:51 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:21 a.m.
Wat.	Leisandir	6/13/11 1:39 p.m.
Re: Wat.	Bones153	6/13/11 2:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Quirel	6/13/11 4:57 p.m.
— INTERMISSION —	kapowaz	6/13/11 11:28 a.m.
Re: — INTERMISSION —	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Captain Spark	6/13/11 12:28 p.m.
I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 12:30 p.m.
Just thought I'd add...	Sl'askia	6/13/11 12:37 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Document	6/13/11 12:47 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 1:00 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	bluerunner	6/13/11 1:08 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 1:21 p.m.
I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:47 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	BlueNinja	6/13/11 4:32 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Louis Wu	6/13/11 4:54 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	BlueNinja	6/13/11 5:28 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Leviathan	6/13/11 5:50 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 4:03 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 5:06 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 6:03 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:21 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 6:27 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:29 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:17 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 6:48 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 7:10 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 7:28 p.m.
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Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 9:55 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 11:13 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 11:50 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:06 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	mnemesis	6/14/11 12:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:36 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/14/11 7:21 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 1:22 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/14/11 1:38 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 2:30 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 2:28 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/14/11 12:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:44 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 6:19 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 6:26 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 6:55 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Leviathan	6/14/11 9:46 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 2:31 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	General Vagueness	6/14/11 1:15 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 3:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	General Vagueness	6/15/11 10:09 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/17/11 1:37 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 1:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/14/11 10:33 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 6:51 a.m.
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Re: You people are confusing me.	Cody Miller	6/14/11 1:26 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:42 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:46 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 5:05 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	nomis78	6/13/11 2:43 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:36 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:07 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:39 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DarkS7G	6/13/11 11:55 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 12:04 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/13/11 12:22 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:16 p.m.
I choose to believe this as well.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 1:37 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	bluerunner	6/13/11 1:50 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	Beckx	6/13/11 3:20 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:53 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 12:58 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:02 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/14/11 1:29 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:44 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 12:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/8/11 7:25 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:43 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	SPARTAN-034	6/14/11 3:59 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/14/11 4:33 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Frankie	6/14/11 8:09 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 8:16 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Frankie	6/14/11 8:22 p.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/14/11 9:17 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 9:28 p.m.
In other news...	GrimBrother One	6/14/11 10:31 p.m.
Re: In other news...	mnemesis	6/14/11 10:55 p.m.
Re: In other news...	macgyver10	6/15/11 1:16 a.m.
AM I DOIN IT RITE?	AngelicLionheart	6/14/11 10:07 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	macgyver10	6/15/11 1:18 a.m.
Well, sufficiently advanced technology and all. :P	SPARTAN-034	6/14/11 11:50 p.m.
Love it! Make it happen 343i *NM*	scarab	6/8/11 12:57 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	The BS Police	6/8/11 8:13 a.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	scarab	6/8/11 10:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Armour perms?)	DEEP NNN	6/8/11 9:19 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Armour perms?)	Revenant1988	6/8/11 10:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	General Vagueness	6/9/11 5:12 p.m.
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Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	frankie	6/7/11 8:58 p.m.
Do Sangheili even have Molars? *NM*	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/8/11 6:13 a.m.
well...	kidtsunami	6/7/11 8:48 p.m.
Re: well...	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: well...	Chewbeccawacca	6/7/11 9:11 p.m.
Re: well...	BanditORR	6/7/11 10:45 p.m.
Re: well...	Dagoonite	6/8/11 3:11 a.m.
Re: well...	Chewbeccawacca	6/10/11 12:18 p.m.
Re: well...	Louis Wu	6/13/11 10:48 a.m.
Interesting Theory	NsU Soldier	6/13/11 11:44 a.m.
CONFIRMED!	padraig08	6/13/11 12:37 p.m.
Pre-order = DONE! *NM*	Mazz	6/13/11 12:44 p.m.
FURTHER CONFIRMED!	Lekku	6/13/11 1:04 p.m.
Re: FURTHER CONFIRMED!	NsU Soldier	6/13/11 1:53 p.m.
Re: CONFIRMED!	Captain Spark	6/13/11 2:52 p.m.
I've never actually considered this until now.	TCKaos	6/7/11 9:24 p.m.
Note: Don't think about something so much that ...	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:43 p.m.
Re: Heh, I knew there'd be a reason...	Tighclops	6/7/11 10:23 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/8/11 3:01 a.m.
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Re: Packing heat.	Hedgemony	6/10/11 8:16 a.m.
Re: Packing heat.	bluerunner	6/10/11 9:02 a.m.
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