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This post perfectly sums up what's wrong.
Posted By: PsychoRaven <psychoraven13@nospam.cox.net>	Date: 6/8/11 11:45 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Narcogen) : Because we're having difficulty coming up with one that isn't? And because : similar explanations have, in the past, been ridiculous? (Boren's : Syndrome/Spartan Is, BR-55s in plastic, etc etc) : and that the cinematic we saw will be the same thing : Ah. Well, that could be the case. The Halo 2 trailer doesn't happen in-game : the same exact way, for instance. : Does that mean that while Halo 2 can add in a ridiculous space pickle, Halo 4 : can take out the ridiculous jetpack? If so, great! : Also-- that space pickle was put in to cover for the fact that Bungie : *removed an entire level from the game*. Not just because they felt like : it, or because they thought space pickles were cool. The covenant ship : invasion level got cut, so the "bomb" was added to allow the : Chief to still do the airlock dive, take out a vessel, and continue to the : next level of gameplay. Otherwise, removing that level would have meant : cutting the airlock dive scene entirely. : The Halo 3 : Starry Night was a TV spot, not a trailer, and it wasn't in-engine. Then : again, neither is this one, apparently. : Because explanations matter? : That sort of made sense between Halo 1 and Halo 2. It makes no sense here : whatsoever; there are no facilities available. The ship he's on is without : power, torn in half, and on fire-- although that makes no sense, either. : There's nowhere and no-one from which he can get an upgrade. : we're finally getting answers to : Ah, yes. Darker! Grittier! Edgier! : Nowhere in that trailer did I think : Actually, generally speaking, Bungie went to considerable lengths to use the : same imagery and technology in their trailers as they did within their : games. Using cutscenes not generated in the game engine came late in the : series (although admittedly Halo 2's cutscenes, for instance, had greater : fidelity than what the game was able to produce on the actual Xbox). : Basically, very little happens in this trailer. The Chief wakes up, rescues : Cortana, and looks out into space at Big Forerunner Thing of the Day. : Is it too much to ask to show that without messing with continuity? If not, : couldn't they have shown something else? Maybe the Chief and Cortana : crashland on a Forerunner artifact of incredible complexity. Maybe : automated facilities heal the Chief's injuries and upgrade his suit. : Perhaps Cortana gets trapped in, or runs away into, a huge Forerunner : computer system. Why not hint at that? Why not show a bit of that? : If you're going to try and dovetail the closing cinematic of Halo 3 with what : is presumably the opening cinematic of Halo 4 (at least, as far as the : Chief and Cortana are concerned) then maintaining at least a minimum of : visual similarity I think would be a fairly high priority-- but apparently : not. Have you looked at the way Cortana looks in that trailer? It's awful. : Simply awful. I've seen better fan art. MUCH better. : He already has done it, and there's no explanation for the jetpack that won't : be crap; it's not possible. : The best we can hope for is this, and if they do it, I'll salute them: : Cortana: "So, where did you get that jet pack?" : "Master Chief: "Sorry, that's classified." : Nod to the audience, admit you're messing with us, and get on with it. That I : can respect. : Start trying to make something you put in for gameplay, or something you put : in because "wouldn't it be cool if in the trailer Master Chief had a : jetpack" and messing up the story with it is, I think, unnecessary. You my friend just perfectly nailed the problems with the Halo 4 trailer. I'm not the type that can put thoughts into words well. that's why I love it when someone captures exactly what I'm thinking perfectly.

Message Index

IGN Halo Anniversary vid live now	GrimBrother One	6/7/11 7:25 p.m.
Re: IGN Halo Anniversary vid live now	Dani	6/7/11 7:29 p.m.
Interesting Frankie Quote	GrimBrother One	6/7/11 7:37 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/7/11 8:31 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	TDSpiral	6/7/11 8:37 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/7/11 8:57 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	TDSpiral	6/8/11 12:07 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 2:17 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/8/11 3:46 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 4:00 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Bry	6/8/11 6:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:06 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/8/11 6:30 a.m.
Suggestion?	Leisandir	6/8/11 10:52 a.m.
Agreed! *NM*	Lurono	6/9/11 3:09 a.m.
This post perfectly sums up what's wrong.	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:45 a.m.
Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narcogen.	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:46 a.m.
Re: Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narco	Archilen	6/8/11 11:49 a.m.
Re: Damn it. This post was meant in reply to Narco	PsychoRaven	6/8/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/8/11 2:17 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 2:28 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/8/11 6:53 p.m.
second'd *NM*	Leisandir	6/8/11 7:20 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:08 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 7:55 a.m.
And to be honest...	DHalo	6/9/11 8:17 a.m.
Re: And to be honest...	Narcogen	6/10/11 4:12 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 4:08 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	General Vagueness	6/9/11 5:53 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 8:45 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/9/11 9:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 9:35 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 1:57 a.m.
Oh! I see what the problem is.	Leisandir	6/9/11 10:01 a.m.
Re: Oh! I see what the problem is.	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:11 a.m.
Re: Oh! I see what the problem is.	Leisandir	6/10/11 7:58 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 1:49 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 6:21 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/10/11 9:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 10:22 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/10/11 10:38 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 10:47 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/13/11 2:49 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 5:24 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/13/11 7:41 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DEEP NNN	6/13/11 7:56 p.m.
You're Doing It Wrong *NM*	The Loot	6/13/11 10:03 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 2:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/14/11 3:26 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 4:29 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cocopjojo	6/14/11 11:35 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/15/11 3:03 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:36 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:32 a.m.
You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:01 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:15 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 11:17 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	excowboy83	6/13/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 12:24 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 1:10 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 1:35 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 2:47 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 3:51 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:21 a.m.
Wat.	Leisandir	6/13/11 1:39 p.m.
Re: Wat.	Bones153	6/13/11 2:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Quirel	6/13/11 4:57 p.m.
— INTERMISSION —	kapowaz	6/13/11 11:28 a.m.
Re: — INTERMISSION —	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Captain Spark	6/13/11 12:28 p.m.
I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 12:30 p.m.
Just thought I'd add...	Sl'askia	6/13/11 12:37 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Document	6/13/11 12:47 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 1:00 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	bluerunner	6/13/11 1:08 p.m.
Re: I am with you Wu	Sl'askia	6/13/11 1:21 p.m.
I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:47 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	BlueNinja	6/13/11 4:32 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Louis Wu	6/13/11 4:54 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	BlueNinja	6/13/11 5:28 p.m.
Re: I don't think I actually even interpreted...	Leviathan	6/13/11 5:50 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 4:03 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/13/11 5:06 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 6:03 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:21 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	uberfoop	6/13/11 6:27 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:29 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 6:17 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 6:48 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 7:10 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 7:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 8:02 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 9:55 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/13/11 11:13 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/13/11 11:50 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:06 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	mnemesis	6/14/11 12:34 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:36 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/14/11 7:21 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 1:22 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Louis Wu	6/14/11 1:38 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 2:30 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 2:28 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/14/11 12:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 12:44 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 6:19 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 6:26 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 6:55 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Leviathan	6/14/11 9:46 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 2:31 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	General Vagueness	6/14/11 1:15 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/15/11 3:38 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	General Vagueness	6/15/11 10:09 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/17/11 1:37 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Avateur	6/14/11 1:28 p.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	DHalo	6/14/11 10:33 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 6:51 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:14 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Cody Miller	6/14/11 1:26 a.m.
Re: You people are confusing me.	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:42 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:46 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 5:05 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Leisandir	6/9/11 10:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:23 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 5:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DHalo	6/9/11 9:04 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/9/11 12:02 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/10/11 6:28 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:13 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	nomis78	6/13/11 2:43 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/13/11 8:07 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/9/11 11:14 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/10/11 2:36 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/10/11 9:44 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/13/11 1:27 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:07 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:21 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:30 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:42 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	DarkS7G	6/13/11 11:55 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/13/11 11:59 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Louis Wu	6/13/11 12:04 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/13/11 12:22 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:16 p.m.
I choose to believe this as well.	Vandle Valsher	6/13/11 1:37 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	bluerunner	6/13/11 1:50 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	Beckx	6/13/11 3:20 p.m.
Re: I choose to believe this as well.	Leviathan	6/13/11 1:53 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 12:58 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:39 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Cody Miller	6/13/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/13/11 11:52 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	mnemesis	6/14/11 1:29 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 1:44 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/14/11 12:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/8/11 7:25 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Lurono	6/9/11 3:43 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	SPARTAN-034	6/14/11 3:59 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/14/11 4:33 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Frankie	6/14/11 8:09 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 8:16 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Frankie	6/14/11 8:22 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Avateur	6/14/11 8:39 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/14/11 9:17 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	6/14/11 9:28 p.m.
In other news...	GrimBrother One	6/14/11 10:31 p.m.
Re: In other news...	mnemesis	6/14/11 10:55 p.m.
Re: In other news...	macgyver10	6/15/11 1:16 a.m.
AM I DOIN IT RITE?	AngelicLionheart	6/14/11 10:07 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	macgyver10	6/15/11 1:18 a.m.
Well, sufficiently advanced technology and all. :P	SPARTAN-034	6/14/11 11:50 p.m.
Love it! Make it happen 343i *NM*	scarab	6/8/11 12:57 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	The BS Police	6/8/11 8:13 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Archilen	6/8/11 8:18 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	scarab	6/8/11 10:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Armour perms?)	DEEP NNN	6/8/11 9:19 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote (Armour perms?)	Revenant1988	6/8/11 10:51 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/9/11 1:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	General Vagueness	6/9/11 5:12 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Quirel	6/9/11 5:41 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	frankie	6/7/11 8:58 p.m.
Do Sangheili even have Molars? *NM*	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/8/11 6:13 a.m.
well...	kidtsunami	6/7/11 8:48 p.m.
Re: well...	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: well...	Chewbeccawacca	6/7/11 9:11 p.m.
Re: well...	BanditORR	6/7/11 10:45 p.m.
Re: well...	Dagoonite	6/8/11 3:11 a.m.
Re: well...	Chewbeccawacca	6/10/11 12:18 p.m.
Re: well...	Louis Wu	6/13/11 10:48 a.m.
Interesting Theory	NsU Soldier	6/13/11 11:44 a.m.
CONFIRMED!	padraig08	6/13/11 12:37 p.m.
Pre-order = DONE! *NM*	Mazz	6/13/11 12:44 p.m.
FURTHER CONFIRMED!	Lekku	6/13/11 1:04 p.m.
Re: FURTHER CONFIRMED!	NsU Soldier	6/13/11 1:53 p.m.
Re: CONFIRMED!	Captain Spark	6/13/11 2:52 p.m.
I've never actually considered this until now.	TCKaos	6/7/11 9:24 p.m.
Note: Don't think about something so much that ...	INSANEdrive	6/7/11 9:43 p.m.
Re: Heh, I knew there'd be a reason...	Tighclops	6/7/11 10:23 p.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Narcogen	6/8/11 3:01 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	speak2al	6/10/11 6:56 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/10/11 7:25 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Mazz	6/10/11 8:06 a.m.
Re: Packing heat.	Hedgemony	6/10/11 8:16 a.m.
Re: Packing heat.	bluerunner	6/10/11 9:02 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Myyke	6/10/11 8:17 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	pete_the_duck	6/10/11 8:53 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	bluerunner	6/10/11 9:10 a.m.
Re: Interesting Frankie Quote	Myyke	6/10/11 9:14 a.m.