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Re: Exactly what you said

Posted By: General Battuta <seth.dickinson@gmail.com> Date: 12/13/10 3:05 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Exactly what you said (Cody Miller)

: Yeah that's even worse, because now you are worrying about the game even when
: you aren't playing it. "What daily challenges am I missing
: today?"
: I would have to think about it a little more to articulate it (and maybe I
: will sometime).
I think it's an interesting trend, though, that the slapdash, unpolished multiplayer - Halo 1's entire multiplayer suite and the various betas, both Reach's and Halo 3's - often seem to have a spark which the final products lack.
Maybe it's some kind of cognitive illusion, but I know that one of my biggest complaints about Halo 3's multi was that it felt somehow overpolished, as if the traction was gone and there was nothing to left to grab - whatever that's supposed to mean.
Is it possible that the asymmetries and gaps present in the Betas and H1 allowed players to generate their own gameplay rather than playing inside the developer's rules? Or am I just being a wank?

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On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Cody Miller	12/13/10 2:12 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	ZackDark	12/13/10 2:28 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	elessar787	12/13/10 2:36 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Wayward Spleen™	12/13/10 2:38 p.m.
Exactly what you said	General Battuta	12/13/10 2:47 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	Cody Miller	12/13/10 2:53 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	bluerunner	12/13/10 3:04 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	General Battuta	12/13/10 3:05 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	Cody Miller	12/13/10 3:27 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	General Battuta	12/13/10 3:31 p.m.
Here I still disagree. But not as much as before.	munky-058	12/13/10 5:24 p.m.
Re: Here I still disagree. But not as much as befo	Cody Miller	12/13/10 5:32 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	SonofMacPhisto	12/13/10 3:00 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	General Battuta	12/13/10 3:02 p.m.
The worst part of the system?	Wayward Spleen™	12/13/10 3:14 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	RC Master	12/13/10 3:56 p.m.
Re: Exactly what you said	Wayward Spleen™	12/13/10 3:09 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Cody Miller	12/13/10 2:50 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 2:48 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	General Battuta	12/13/10 2:49 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 2:57 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	General Battuta	12/13/10 3:00 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 3:07 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	General Battuta	12/13/10 3:09 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 3:13 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	ZackDark	12/13/10 3:17 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 3:24 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	ZackDark	12/13/10 3:30 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Cody Miller	12/13/10 3:21 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 3:27 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	cheapLEY	12/13/10 5:00 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Louis Wu	12/13/10 5:02 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Cody Miller	12/13/10 5:10 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	ThorsHammer	12/13/10 7:01 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/14/10 3:28 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Cody Miller	12/14/10 3:40 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	ZackDark	12/13/10 3:14 p.m.
I've got something the covenant can smoke...	bluerunner	12/13/10 3:20 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	SonofMacPhisto	12/13/10 3:28 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 4:00 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	SonofMacPhisto	12/13/10 4:38 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Kermit	12/13/10 8:03 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	RC Master	12/13/10 8:36 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Kermit	12/13/10 8:45 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Wayward Spleen™	12/13/10 3:18 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Beckx	12/13/10 3:26 p.m.
Here's an odd notion	General Battuta	12/13/10 3:20 p.m.
Re: Here's an odd notion	ZackDark	12/13/10 3:25 p.m.
Re: Here's an odd notion	ManKitten	12/13/10 4:37 p.m.
Re: Here's an odd notion	RC Master	12/13/10 4:43 p.m.
Here's an odder notion	ThorsHammer	12/13/10 7:20 p.m.
Re: Here's an odder notion	General Battuta	12/13/10 7:21 p.m.
Re: Here's an odder notion	RC Master	12/13/10 8:17 p.m.
Re: Here's an odder notion	Cody Miller	12/14/10 2:01 p.m.
Your opinion.	munky-058	12/13/10 3:47 p.m.
Re: Your opinion.	Kermit	12/13/10 3:58 p.m.
I agree with you and Cody	ManKitten	12/13/10 4:08 p.m.
Re: I agree with you and Cody	Beckx	12/13/10 4:33 p.m.
Re: I agree with you and Cody	ManKitten	12/13/10 4:45 p.m.
I've always been supportive of honorable gameplay.	munky-058	12/13/10 5:09 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	ChrisTheeCrappy	12/13/10 4:27 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	KalamariKidd	12/13/10 5:19 p.m.
Excuse me!?	RC Master	12/13/10 7:58 p.m.
Re: Excuse me!?	Beckx	12/13/10 8:33 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Wurny	12/13/10 5:43 p.m.
You know, you're kinda lucky Cody...	RC Master	12/13/10 7:52 p.m.
oh yeah... ^ long NM	RC Master	12/13/10 8:18 p.m.
Love this post!	Kermit	12/13/10 8:21 p.m.
Re: Love this post!	General Battuta	12/13/10 8:55 p.m.
Re: Love this post!	Kermit	12/13/10 9:29 p.m.
Re: Love this post!	Bernard Strauss	12/14/10 10:50 a.m.
Re: Love this post!	Kermit	12/14/10 1:02 p.m.
Re: You know, you're kinda lucky Cody...	Cody Miller	12/13/10 8:47 p.m.
Re: You know, you're kinda lucky Cody...	RC Master	12/13/10 10:31 p.m.
Fantastic..	c0ld vengeance	12/13/10 9:19 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Ragashingo	12/13/10 9:19 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	General Battuta	12/13/10 9:22 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Ragashingo	12/13/10 9:34 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	General Battuta	12/13/10 10:00 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	Azo 'Galvat	12/13/10 9:44 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	kidtsunami	12/13/10 11:06 p.m.
External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	Decommissioner	12/13/10 11:02 p.m.
I pretty much agree.	uberfoop	12/13/10 11:18 p.m.
Re: External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	RC Master	12/14/10 7:21 a.m.
Re: External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	Decommissioner	12/14/10 10:58 a.m.
Re: External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	RC Master	12/14/10 12:49 p.m.
Re: External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	Decommissioner	12/14/10 3:47 p.m.
Re: External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	RC Master	12/17/10 4:49 a.m.
Re: External Rewards on Intrinsic Motivation	Decommissioner	12/17/10 2:36 p.m.
Two Words: Skinner Box NM	The Loot	12/14/10 12:10 a.m.
Campaigns are the classic reward system	RC Master	12/14/10 7:08 a.m.
Very nicely written, Cody.	yakaman	12/14/10 1:16 p.m.
How Oddly Relevant...	Bones153	12/14/10 3:13 p.m.
Re: How Oddly Relevant...	SonofMacPhisto	12/14/10 3:44 p.m.
Re: On Bungie and the Value of the Player's Time	NotTheVacuum	12/15/10 10:41 a.m.