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Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment plea
Posted By: Cody MillerDate: 6/20/12 5:12 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment plea (Kermit)


: Maybe you're right, but if that's the case, so be it. I see games as being
: very similar to film in that it will become technically easier and cheaper
: to make games in the future.

This is a misunderstanding. Films and games are dramatically different in their creation.

For a film, the quality depends on the imagination of the writer, and execution by the production and post production crew. It is not any more expensive to write and film gripping story than it is to write a bad one. You can easily spend little money to make a good film, because the quality of the story has little to do with how much you spend.

For a game, the quality depends on the complexity. This means that to make a game tomorrow better than those today, it must be more complex. This DOES cost more money, since people need to create more art, work out more advanced algorithms, design larger more intricate levels, etc. The complexity of a game is very much correlated to how much is spent.

: That's what I meant about resources. As the
: harder parts become easier, the parts that were too challenging and
: expensive to pull off before begin to get attention.

The harder parts do not get easier: they get HARDER because they become more complex. AI scripting is much harder now than before, because AI is better. Graphics programming is harder now than before, because graphics are better. Level design is harder now than before, because levels are bigger. Animating characters is harder now than before, because the animation is more detailed.


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Prometheus *OT*Miguel Chavez 6/8/12 2:08 a.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*Chris101b 6/8/12 3:18 a.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*TDSpiral 6/8/12 5:16 a.m.
           Re: Prometheus *OT*Dagoonite 6/9/12 10:38 a.m.
                 Re: Prometheus *OT*Miguel Chavez 6/9/12 1:26 p.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*scarab 6/8/12 7:17 a.m.
     Just tell me one thing *Asking 4 Spoils*JDQuackers 6/8/12 7:18 a.m.
           Re: Just tell me one thing *Asking 4 Spoils*General Battuta 6/8/12 9:04 a.m.
           Re: Just tell me one thing *Asking 4 Spoils*scarab 6/8/12 9:31 a.m.
           *SPOILS*Miguel Chavez 6/8/12 10:37 a.m.
     What a dreadful disappointment *SP*General Battuta 6/8/12 9:06 a.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*Beckx 6/8/12 9:33 a.m.
           Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*General Battuta 6/8/12 9:38 a.m.
                 Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*Beckx 6/8/12 9:43 a.m.
                       Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*bluerunner 6/8/12 10:16 a.m.
                 I took the day off for this sh*t?Kermit 6/8/12 10:18 a.m.
                 Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*scarab 6/8/12 10:29 a.m.
                       Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*Miguel Chavez 6/8/12 10:46 a.m.
                             Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*scarab 6/8/12 10:55 a.m.
                                   Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*Miguel Chavez 6/8/12 11:32 a.m.
                                         Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*scarab 6/8/12 12:13 p.m.
                             Linkscarab 6/8/12 11:09 a.m.
                       Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*Quirel 6/8/12 11:08 a.m.
                             Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*scarab 6/8/12 11:11 a.m.
           LOL *NM*SonofMacPhisto 6/9/12 3:09 p.m.
     Well then...Mid7night 6/8/12 9:58 a.m.
           Same *NM*JDQuackers 6/8/12 10:00 a.m.
           Re: Yep. *NM* *NM*Beckx 6/8/12 10:12 a.m.
           The more trailers I saw the less I expectedscarab 6/8/12 10:42 a.m.
           This is a horrible mindset to take.Postmortem 6/9/12 7:44 p.m.
     Guess I'm waiting for $1 movie night...davidfuchs 6/8/12 10:21 a.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*Cody Miller 6/8/12 10:33 a.m.
           Re: Prometheus *OT*General Battuta 6/8/12 10:45 a.m.
           Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*scarab 6/8/12 10:51 a.m.
                 Re: Prometheus *OT* *SP*Miguel Chavez 6/8/12 10:52 a.m.
           Re: Hideo Kojima says...Beckx 6/8/12 4:26 p.m.
           Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaseMetalingus627 6/8/12 6:05 p.m.
                 Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/14/12 11:40 a.m.
                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaBeckx 6/14/12 12:20 p.m.
                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleathebruce0 6/14/12 12:57 p.m.
                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleamunky-058 6/14/12 12:51 p.m.
                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaRC Master 6/14/12 4:01 p.m.
                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/14/12 7:12 p.m.
                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleahunt3r 6/14/12 6:45 p.m.
                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaHawaiian Pig 6/15/12 12:18 a.m.
                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleauberfoop 6/15/12 2:20 a.m.
                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaQuantum 6/15/12 2:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaQuantum 6/15/12 4:03 a.m.
                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/15/12 11:50 a.m.
                                   Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaKermit 6/15/12 12:44 p.m.
                                         Only a Sith deals in absolutes. *NM*Leisandir 6/15/12 1:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaHawaiian Pig 6/15/12 8:50 p.m.
                                         Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/18/12 12:32 p.m.
                                               Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/18/12 12:38 p.m.
                                                     Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleathebruce0 6/18/12 1:27 p.m.
                                                           Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/18/12 4:37 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleamnemesis 6/18/12 5:33 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/18/12 5:57 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleathebruce0 6/18/12 11:01 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/19/12 12:03 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaLouis Wu 6/19/12 7:28 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/19/12 10:11 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaLouis Wu 6/19/12 10:16 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/19/12 1:22 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaStryfe Bringer 6/19/12 1:41 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/19/12 1:50 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaStryfe Bringer 6/19/12 2:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaKermit 6/20/12 8:47 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/20/12 10:59 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaKermit 6/20/12 11:55 a.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/20/12 12:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaKermit 6/20/12 2:10 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/20/12 5:12 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaKermit 6/20/12 7:54 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaKermit 6/20/12 7:59 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleauberfoop 6/20/12 8:14 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaJillybean 6/19/12 1:39 p.m.
                                                                                                           HistoryCody Miller 6/19/12 1:49 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: HistoryJillybean 6/19/12 2:08 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: HistoryHawaiian Pig 6/21/12 4:18 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: HistoryHawaiian Pig 6/21/12 5:11 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: HistoryMiguel Chavez 6/21/12 7:22 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: HistoryCody Miller 6/21/12 10:56 a.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: HistoryLeisandir 6/21/12 11:21 a.m.
                                                                                                                                         Thoughts CollectedCody Miller 6/21/12 1:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Thoughts Collectedthebruce0 6/21/12 2:28 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     (correction)thebruce0 6/21/12 2:39 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: (correction)Cody Miller 6/21/12 3:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: (correction)Kermit 6/21/12 5:06 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: (correction)thebruce0 6/21/12 5:19 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               And then Mass Effect proved Cody wrong...munky-058 6/21/12 6:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: And then Mass Effect proved Cody wrong...General Battuta 6/22/12 9:30 a.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Thoughts CollectedLeisandir 6/22/12 8:08 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Yep. Very this. *NM*thebruce0 6/21/12 8:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: HistoryCody Miller 6/21/12 10:51 a.m.
                                                                                                                             I... just... *headdesk* *NM*thebruce0 6/21/12 12:07 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: HistoryDHalo 6/22/12 1:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                       A++++ Post Would Read AgainJillybean 6/21/12 2:03 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Agreed. *NM*Kermit 6/21/12 5:07 p.m.
                                                                                         What Wu said. I got nothin' else for ya... *NM*thebruce0 6/19/12 8:48 a.m.
                                   Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleathebruce0 6/18/12 9:38 a.m.
                                         Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaCody Miller 6/18/12 11:20 a.m.
                                               Cody Miller: Video Games CAN tell stories! *NM*thebruce0 6/18/12 1:23 p.m.
                       Re: Cody Miller: No story in my entertainment pleaagdtinman 6/18/12 7:46 p.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*Hedgemony 6/8/12 10:46 a.m.
     Man, I was excited to see this on my birthday *NM*CYBRFRK 6/8/12 10:56 a.m.
     I liked it.BlueNinja 6/8/12 2:15 p.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*Kermit 6/8/12 9:17 p.m.
           sorry for the rampart italic tag *NM*Kermit 6/8/12 9:19 p.m.
                 rampant ^ *NM*Kermit 6/8/12 9:20 p.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT Concuryakaman 6/9/12 2:27 a.m.
     You knowTex 6/9/12 4:55 a.m.
           Re: You knowHedgemony 6/9/12 6:46 a.m.
                 Re: You knowKermit 6/9/12 8:20 a.m.
                       Re: You knowHawki 6/9/12 9:12 a.m.
                             Re: You knowTex 6/9/12 12:39 p.m.
                       Re: You knowMiguel Chavez 6/9/12 1:30 p.m.
           Re: You knowMiguel Chavez 6/9/12 1:33 p.m.
           Re: You knowSonofMacPhisto 6/9/12 3:09 p.m.
     :(Postmortem 6/9/12 1:21 p.m.
           Haters gonna hate.Postmortem 6/9/12 6:17 p.m.
                 Re: Haters gonna hate.Kermit 6/9/12 9:55 p.m.
     The theory that makes me love it:Jillybean 6/9/12 2:39 p.m.
           This is what the film needed...Miguel Chavez 6/9/12 3:25 p.m.
                 Re: This is what the film needed...Jillybean 6/9/12 4:11 p.m.
           Re: The theory that makes me love it:Tex 6/9/12 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: The theory that makes me love it:Jillybean 6/9/12 5:25 p.m.
                 Classic reply on redditscarab 6/10/12 4:19 a.m.
                 LOST in Space, rather. *NM*Ma1agate 6/10/12 1:14 p.m.
           Re: The theory that makes me love it:Hawki 6/9/12 5:39 p.m.
                 Re: The theory that makes me love it:scarab 6/10/12 4:57 a.m.
                       Re: The theory that makes me love it:Dagoonite 6/10/12 7:52 a.m.
                             Re: The theory that makes me love it:scarab 6/10/12 9:46 a.m.
                 Re: The theory that makes me love it:Jillybean 6/10/12 11:02 a.m.
           This will throw you through the wallCody Miller 6/14/12 11:44 a.m.
                 Re: This will throw you through the wallJillybean 6/14/12 5:10 p.m.
                       Re: This will throw you through the wallhunt3r 6/14/12 6:42 p.m.
                             Re: This will throw you through the wallCody Miller 6/14/12 7:19 p.m.
                                   Re: This will throw you through the wallhunt3r 6/14/12 8:12 p.m.
                             Re: This will throw you through the wallMiguel Chavez 6/15/12 3:19 p.m.
     My thoughtsPostmortem 6/9/12 7:00 p.m.
           Re: My thoughtsHawki 6/9/12 7:21 p.m.
                 Re: My thoughtsPostmortem 6/9/12 7:35 p.m.
                 Nailed it!Miguel Chavez 6/10/12 1:41 a.m.
                       Re: Nailed it! Agreed, again.yakaman 6/10/12 10:10 a.m.
                             Re: Nailed it! Agreed, again.Jillybean 6/10/12 11:07 a.m.
                                   Re: Nailed it! Agreed, again.yakaman 6/10/12 12:33 p.m.
                                         Prometheus = Halo + Lost.Ma1agate 6/10/12 12:55 p.m.
     HehJillybean 6/10/12 4:25 p.m.
           Not even reading the discussionNikko B201 6/10/12 4:26 p.m.
                 It worked! *NM*Nikko B201 6/10/12 4:33 p.m.
                       Re: It worked!Jillybean 6/10/12 4:37 p.m.
                             Admins? What admins?Nikko B201 6/10/12 4:38 p.m.
                                   Re: Admins? What admins?Jillybean 6/10/12 4:39 p.m.
                                         Re: Admins? What admins?Nikko B201 6/10/12 4:41 p.m.
                                               Re: Admins? What admins?Jillybean 6/10/12 4:44 p.m.
                                                     Re: Admins? What admins?Louis Wu 6/10/12 4:47 p.m.
                                                           Thanks. [he said sheepishly] *NM*Kermit 6/10/12 6:49 p.m.
           Re: HehTex 6/10/12 4:27 p.m.
                 Re: HehJillybean 6/10/12 4:28 p.m.
           Re: HehCody Miller 6/10/12 8:12 p.m.
                 Re: HehCody Miller 6/10/12 8:25 p.m.
                 Re: Hehscarab 6/11/12 8:24 a.m.
     BTW, did anyone catch the Halo connection?Postmortem 6/11/12 1:13 p.m.
           Share? *NM*davidfuchs 6/11/12 1:40 p.m.
           What's a battle? What's a diorama?PyroSporker16 6/11/12 1:45 p.m.
           Re: BTW, did anyone catch the Halo connection?Subtank 6/11/12 1:58 p.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*DrDoctor 6/14/12 4:31 p.m.
     Re: Prometheus *OT*DrDoctor 6/14/12 4:54 p.m.
     Just saw itArchilen 6/20/12 8:36 a.m.
           Re: Just saw itMiguel Chavez 6/20/12 8:43 a.m.
                 Re: omg halooooooooRevenant1988 6/20/12 12:38 p.m.
                 Tell that author to use his inside type.bryan newman 6/20/12 4:06 p.m.
                 Yeah, The Two Towers sucked...munky-058 6/20/12 6:56 p.m.



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