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Re: Expression.
Posted By: Peptuck <peptuck3@hotmail.com>Date: 12/7/05 9:44 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Expression. (Brian Graham)

I'd appreciate it if you didn't mock my definition by twisting it in that way to imply torture and suffering as an art form. I never intended for it to be taken that way; human suffering is not art, its simply sadism.

Also, to not call cooking an art is to insult several chefs I know. Very deeply. Its the same way with swordsmiths. I've encountered Japanese smiths who take tremendous pride in their work and consider their blades to be works of art, blades which I'd have to agree are art. They offer no insight into the human condition (they're swords, after all) but I view them as much pieces of art as any painting.

I consider art as expression. You consider it to be something different. I respect your opinion, but please don't mock my own, and don't insult several artists I've met and known whose own work is as much true art as any book or movie.


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Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GameBrian Graham 12/7/05 4:12 p.m.
     Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaDucain 12/7/05 4:27 p.m.
           Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaNarcogen 12/7/05 9:47 p.m.
     I do wonder...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/7/05 4:29 p.m.
           Re: I do wonder...Brian Graham 12/7/05 4:57 p.m.
                 Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/7/05 5:03 p.m.
                       Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Roger Wilco 12/7/05 5:58 p.m.
                             metacriticismNarcogen 12/7/05 9:51 p.m.
                                   Re: metacriticismRoger Wilco 12/7/05 11:23 p.m.
                       Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Brian Graham 12/7/05 8:25 p.m.
                             Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/7/05 9:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:zugy 12/7/05 9:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Brian Graham 12/7/05 9:42 p.m.
                                   Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Narcogen 12/7/05 9:56 p.m.
                                         Re: Reprinted from my Rampancy.net posts:Pak 12/7/05 10:09 p.m.
                 Comment repilesNarcogen 12/7/05 9:49 p.m.
                       Re: Comment repilesBrian Graham 12/7/05 10:09 p.m.
     I disagreeEchoes 12/7/05 4:34 p.m.
           Re: I disagreeSep7imus [subnova] 12/7/05 4:56 p.m.
                 Art...Video Games...MurderPallor [subnova] 12/7/05 5:53 p.m.
                       Welcome back. *NM*c0ld vengeance 12/7/05 6:38 p.m.
                       Re: Art...Video Games...MurderSep7imus [subnova] 12/7/05 6:47 p.m.
                             Re: Art...Video Games...Murdermad.max [subnova] 12/7/05 6:57 p.m.
                             Speeding It UpPallor [subnova] 12/7/05 7:14 p.m.
     Craftsmanshipmad.max [subnova] 12/7/05 6:43 p.m.
           Expression.Peptuck 12/7/05 7:05 p.m.
                 Re: Expression.Brian Graham 12/7/05 8:20 p.m.
                       Re: Expression.Peptuck 12/7/05 9:44 p.m.
                             Re: Expression.Louis Wu 12/8/05 9:00 a.m.
                                   Re: Expression.Malleus 12/8/05 11:27 a.m.
           Now that you've defined art and craft so wellchar 12/7/05 7:10 p.m.
                 Re: Now that you've defined art and craft so wellPeptuck 12/7/05 7:16 p.m.
           Re: CraftsmanshipPak 12/7/05 7:42 p.m.
                 My Creation.Pallor [subnova] 12/7/05 7:53 p.m.
                       Re: My Creation.Pak 12/7/05 8:52 p.m.
                             Re: My Creation.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/7/05 9:15 p.m.
                                   Hanging on my "Wall" IMGPak 12/7/05 9:25 p.m.
                                   Re: My Creation.Peptuck 12/8/05 12:21 a.m.
                       Re: My Creation.Peptuck 12/7/05 11:42 p.m.
           Craft, Art, Low Art, High Art, Pop Art, PopTartNarcogen 12/7/05 10:09 p.m.
           Re: CraftsmanshipWado SG 12/8/05 2:29 a.m.
                 Re: CraftsmanshipPak 12/8/05 3:52 p.m.
     Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and Gachar 12/7/05 6:56 p.m.
           Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaWhisp 12/7/05 7:03 p.m.
     Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaPak 12/7/05 7:08 p.m.
     I also disagree.Shishka 12/7/05 7:33 p.m.
           Er, with Mr Graham, not Narc. *NM*Shishka 12/7/05 7:49 p.m.
           Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 8:10 p.m.
                 Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 8:26 p.m.
                       Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 8:35 p.m.
                             Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 8:46 p.m.
                                   Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 8:57 p.m.
                                         Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 9:08 p.m.
                                         Re: I also disagree.Louis Wu 12/7/05 9:14 p.m.
                                               Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 9:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: I also disagree.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/7/05 9:40 p.m.
                                                           Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 9:44 p.m.
                                                           Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 9:50 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 9:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 9:58 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 10:07 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I also disagree.Brian Graham 12/7/05 10:11 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 10:13 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I also disagree.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/7/05 10:15 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I also disagree.Pak 12/7/05 10:28 p.m.
                                                     Re: I also disagree.Narcogen 12/7/05 10:32 p.m.
                             Re: I also disagree.jman571 12/7/05 8:46 p.m.
                 Re: I also disagree.Shishka 12/7/05 9:54 p.m.
                 Re: I also disagree.Narcogen 12/7/05 10:22 p.m.
     Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 8:28 p.m.
           Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 8:30 p.m.
           Re: Is a rose by any other name...Brian Graham 12/7/05 8:42 p.m.
                 Re: Is a rose by any other name...Pak 12/7/05 8:50 p.m.
                       Re: Is a rose by any other name...Brian Graham 12/7/05 9:36 p.m.
                 art is like the gum at the bottom of my shoe *NM*jman571 12/7/05 8:51 p.m.
                 Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 8:53 p.m.
                       the ART of War, maybe? *NM*jman571 12/7/05 9:07 p.m.
                       Re: Is a rose by any other name...Brian Graham 12/7/05 9:14 p.m.
                             Re: Is a rose by any other name...Pak 12/7/05 9:40 p.m.
                             Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 9:59 p.m.
                                   Re: Is a rose by any other name...Brian Graham 12/7/05 10:19 p.m.
                                         Re: Is a rose by any other name...Pak 12/7/05 10:30 p.m.
                                               Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 10:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 10:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Is a rose by any other name...Pak 12/7/05 10:27 p.m.
                                         Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/7/05 11:07 p.m.
                                               Re: Is a rose by any other name...Pak 12/8/05 2:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: Is a rose by any other name...Wado SG 12/8/05 9:18 p.m.
     The problem with art...zugy 12/7/05 9:30 p.m.
           Re: The problem with art...Peptuck 12/7/05 9:46 p.m.
                 Isin't it ironic....jman571 12/7/05 10:14 p.m.
     Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaBrian Graham 12/7/05 10:22 p.m.
           Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaSep7imus [subnova] 12/7/05 10:30 p.m.
                 Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaWado SG 12/8/05 1:59 a.m.
           Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaPak 12/7/05 10:31 p.m.
     Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaSep7imus [subnova] 12/7/05 10:30 p.m.
     Re: Rebuttal to Narcogen's Article on Story and GaTiny 12/7/05 11:55 p.m.



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