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Posted By: Steve Levinson | Date: 6/26/02 8:20 a.m. | |
In Response To: Re: Ouch! (:: Beer Can ::) : Why do uneducated peasants in ghettos hate the rich university
: Answer that, and answer your question about Terror... I used to believe that - that this was simply a war of rich versus poor, but that does not explain hot spots such as what was Yougoslavia. A lot of this is indoctrinated hate, passed on to us by our parents and reinforced by local perceptions of events. Why do the Irish still carry a grudge against the Brittish? - and I'm not referring to Northern Ireland. The invasion of Ireland happened hundreds of years ago. What most Irish don't know is that the Celts once were the menacing invaders of much of Europe - so this is a form of selective collective memory. What I'm getting at is that if you take a child and teach him (or her) hatred of someone else from throughout their growth and development, the hatred will be a part of their very being, and very difficult to expunge. So, Sock, it's not simply a matter of us stopping doing what we are doing - not that we should ever stop being a becon for freedum and democracy - but we would have to cease to exist to satisfy the hunger of those who hate us. I agree that we have made many, many mistakes and too often served our own misguided selfinterests, but we cannot satisfy the dreams of the fundamentalists without surrendering our most cherished ideals - and I'd rather live with terror than do that, as I think would most. See my earlier posts for what I believe is a rational approach - isolation, deprivation and political reform of the region.
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Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/17/02 5:14 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Yossarian | 6/17/02 8:19 p.m. | |
Great references - thanks *NM* | Steve Levinson | 6/17/02 10:06 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Agent Cletus | 6/18/02 9:56 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Ben A. Potter | 6/18/02 12:09 p.m. | |
LOL, U prove my point. Cletus. | Agent Cletus | 6/18/02 12:34 p.m. | |
Re: LOL, U prove my point. Cletus. | Steve Levinson | 6/18/02 12:58 p.m. | |
So totally wrong . . . | MakeMineRed | 6/18/02 1:02 p.m. | |
again... | Ben A. Potter | 6/19/02 1:18 p.m. | |
I couldn't have said it better myself | Steve Levinson | 6/18/02 12:40 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | MakeMineRed | 6/18/02 12:39 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Yossarian | 6/18/02 1:39 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/18/02 2:34 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Yossarian | 6/18/02 4:06 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/18/02 7:11 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Yossarian | 6/18/02 7:20 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Mazilurik | 6/18/02 8:09 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Agent Cletus | 6/19/02 6:29 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/19/02 7:48 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/19/02 11:59 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Yossarian | 6/19/02 1:58 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/19/02 6:35 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/19/02 7:26 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/20/02 9:15 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Yossarian | 6/19/02 8:08 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/20/02 12:34 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/20/02 7:30 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/20/02 9:13 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/20/02 9:35 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/20/02 9:22 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/21/02 12:56 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Tru7h | 6/21/02 7:14 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/22/02 1:50 a.m. | |
Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/22/02 9:23 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | :: Beer Can :: | 6/22/02 12:45 p.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Tru7h | 6/22/02 1:59 p.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | :: Beer Can :: | 6/22/02 5:36 p.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/22/02 7:40 p.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Mazilurik | 6/22/02 9:13 p.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/22/02 9:16 p.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Tru7h | 6/23/02 7:18 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/23/02 8:26 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/24/02 12:37 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | :: Beer Can :: | 6/24/02 1:22 a.m. | |
8^D *NM* | Steve Levinson | 6/24/02 7:38 a.m. | |
LOL *NM* | Tru7h | 6/25/02 7:35 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/24/02 8:01 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/25/02 12:52 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Tru7h | 6/25/02 7:48 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/25/02 8:56 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/26/02 1:16 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | :: Beer Can :: | 6/26/02 2:00 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/26/02 8:20 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | :: Beer Can :: | 6/26/02 11:53 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/27/02 12:39 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/27/02 7:51 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/28/02 5:54 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Steve Levinson | 6/28/02 7:32 a.m. | |
Re: Ouch! | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/30/02 5:11 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | C Lund | 6/18/02 2:54 p.m. | |
Perceptions of Science | Steve Levinson | 6/18/02 3:13 p.m. | |
My bad | Agent Cletus | 6/18/02 3:45 p.m. | |
Re: My bad | Steve Levinson | 6/18/02 3:59 p.m. | |
Re: My bad | Agent Cletus | 6/18/02 5:13 p.m. | |
Re: My bad | Mazilurik | 6/18/02 6:47 p.m. | |
Re: My bad | Tru7h | 6/18/02 7:16 p.m. | |
Re: My bad | Yossarian | 6/18/02 7:32 p.m. | |
Re: My bad | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/19/02 12:50 a.m. | |
Re: My bad | Steve Levinson | 6/19/02 7:50 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/29/02 8:04 p.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/30/02 4:35 a.m. | |
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone | Steve Levinson | 6/30/02 2:58 p.m. | |
*Slight spoiler* | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/30/02 4:48 p.m. | |
Re: *Slight spoiler* | Steve Levinson | 6/30/02 6:24 p.m. | |
Re: *Slight spoiler* | Inverted Sock Puppet | 6/30/02 7:40 p.m. |
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