Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone


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Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone

Posted By: C Lund Date: 6/18/02 2:54 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone (Agent Cletus)

: But the problem is the science doesn't stand alone, because Humans are
: entirely subjective creatures. We mix "science", which can only
: truly be performed by an objective creature, with our own opinions. Take
: biological science, for example. There are two main camps in America, the
: Evolutionists and the Creationists. Both use "scientific"
: methods to research the same evidence, yet come up with different, though
: not diametrically opposite, conclusions. The point is not whether
: evolution or creation is the moving force of life: the point is that each
: camp bitterly denouces the other *for reasons of ideology* (!!!)
I hope I don't start a flamewar with this.. but I just can't let this stand;
Creationist Science isn't science! Biological science is pro evolution. Few scientific theories are better proven than evolution. The Creationists denounce the evolutionists for reasons of ideology, while the evolutionists denounce the Creationists because what they're doing isn't science. At best, what they do is wishful thinking or the results of plain old incompetence. At worst.. well, I'll not go there.
Go to http://www.talkorigins.org/ for loads of information on the topic.
I don't *want* to offend anybody with this post, but considering the rather touchy topic, I'm afraid that's inevitable.. B/
: Cletus

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Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/17/02 5:14 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Yossarian 6/17/02 8:19 p.m.

Great references - thanks *NM* Steve Levinson 6/17/02 10:06 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Agent Cletus 6/18/02 9:56 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Ben A. Potter 6/18/02 12:09 p.m.

LOL, U prove my point. Cletus. Agent Cletus 6/18/02 12:34 p.m.

Re: LOL, U prove my point. Cletus. Steve Levinson 6/18/02 12:58 p.m.

So totally wrong . . . MakeMineRed 6/18/02 1:02 p.m.

again... Ben A. Potter 6/19/02 1:18 p.m.

I couldn't have said it better myself Steve Levinson 6/18/02 12:40 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone MakeMineRed 6/18/02 12:39 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Yossarian 6/18/02 1:39 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/18/02 2:34 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Yossarian 6/18/02 4:06 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/18/02 7:11 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Yossarian 6/18/02 7:20 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Mazilurik 6/18/02 8:09 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Agent Cletus 6/19/02 6:29 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/19/02 7:48 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/19/02 11:59 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Yossarian 6/19/02 1:58 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/19/02 6:35 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/19/02 7:26 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/20/02 9:15 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Yossarian 6/19/02 8:08 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Inverted Sock Puppet 6/20/02 12:34 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/20/02 7:30 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/20/02 9:13 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/20/02 9:35 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/20/02 9:22 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Inverted Sock Puppet 6/21/02 12:56 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Tru7h 6/21/02 7:14 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Inverted Sock Puppet 6/22/02 1:50 a.m.

Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/22/02 9:23 a.m.

Re: Ouch! :: Beer Can :: 6/22/02 12:45 p.m.

Re: Ouch! Tru7h 6/22/02 1:59 p.m.

Re: Ouch! :: Beer Can :: 6/22/02 5:36 p.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/22/02 7:40 p.m.

Re: Ouch! Mazilurik 6/22/02 9:13 p.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/22/02 9:16 p.m.

Re: Ouch! Tru7h 6/23/02 7:18 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/23/02 8:26 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/24/02 12:37 a.m.

Re: Ouch! :: Beer Can :: 6/24/02 1:22 a.m.

8^D *NM* Steve Levinson 6/24/02 7:38 a.m.

LOL *NM* Tru7h 6/25/02 7:35 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/24/02 8:01 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/25/02 12:52 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Tru7h 6/25/02 7:48 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/25/02 8:56 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/26/02 1:16 a.m.

Re: Ouch! :: Beer Can :: 6/26/02 2:00 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/26/02 8:20 a.m.

Re: Ouch! :: Beer Can :: 6/26/02 11:53 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/27/02 12:39 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/27/02 7:51 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/28/02 5:54 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Steve Levinson 6/28/02 7:32 a.m.

Re: Ouch! Inverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 5:11 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone C Lund 6/18/02 2:54 p.m.

Perceptions of Science Steve Levinson 6/18/02 3:13 p.m.

My bad Agent Cletus 6/18/02 3:45 p.m.

Re: My bad Steve Levinson 6/18/02 3:59 p.m.

Re: My bad Agent Cletus 6/18/02 5:13 p.m.

Re: My bad Mazilurik 6/18/02 6:47 p.m.

Re: My bad Tru7h 6/18/02 7:16 p.m.

Re: My bad Yossarian 6/18/02 7:32 p.m.

Re: My bad Inverted Sock Puppet 6/19/02 12:50 a.m.

Re: My bad Steve Levinson 6/19/02 7:50 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/29/02 8:04 p.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Inverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 4:35 a.m.

Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone Steve Levinson 6/30/02 2:58 p.m.

*Slight spoiler* Inverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 4:48 p.m.

Re: *Slight spoiler* Steve Levinson 6/30/02 6:24 p.m.

Re: *Slight spoiler* Inverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 7:40 p.m.

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Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/17/02 5:14 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Yossarian	6/17/02 8:19 p.m.
Great references - thanks NM	Steve Levinson	6/17/02 10:06 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Agent Cletus	6/18/02 9:56 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Ben A. Potter	6/18/02 12:09 p.m.
LOL, U prove my point. Cletus.	Agent Cletus	6/18/02 12:34 p.m.
Re: LOL, U prove my point. Cletus.	Steve Levinson	6/18/02 12:58 p.m.
So totally wrong . . .	MakeMineRed	6/18/02 1:02 p.m.
again...	Ben A. Potter	6/19/02 1:18 p.m.
I couldn't have said it better myself	Steve Levinson	6/18/02 12:40 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	MakeMineRed	6/18/02 12:39 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Yossarian	6/18/02 1:39 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/18/02 2:34 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Yossarian	6/18/02 4:06 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/18/02 7:11 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Yossarian	6/18/02 7:20 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Mazilurik	6/18/02 8:09 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Agent Cletus	6/19/02 6:29 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/19/02 7:48 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/19/02 11:59 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Yossarian	6/19/02 1:58 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/19/02 6:35 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/19/02 7:26 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/20/02 9:15 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Yossarian	6/19/02 8:08 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/20/02 12:34 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/20/02 7:30 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/20/02 9:13 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/20/02 9:35 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/20/02 9:22 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/21/02 12:56 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Tru7h	6/21/02 7:14 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/22/02 1:50 a.m.
Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/22/02 9:23 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	:: Beer Can ::	6/22/02 12:45 p.m.
Re: Ouch!	Tru7h	6/22/02 1:59 p.m.
Re: Ouch!	:: Beer Can ::	6/22/02 5:36 p.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/22/02 7:40 p.m.
Re: Ouch!	Mazilurik	6/22/02 9:13 p.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/22/02 9:16 p.m.
Re: Ouch!	Tru7h	6/23/02 7:18 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/23/02 8:26 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/24/02 12:37 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	:: Beer Can ::	6/24/02 1:22 a.m.
8^D NM	Steve Levinson	6/24/02 7:38 a.m.
LOL NM	Tru7h	6/25/02 7:35 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/24/02 8:01 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/25/02 12:52 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Tru7h	6/25/02 7:48 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/25/02 8:56 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/26/02 1:16 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	:: Beer Can ::	6/26/02 2:00 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/26/02 8:20 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	:: Beer Can ::	6/26/02 11:53 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/27/02 12:39 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/27/02 7:51 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/28/02 5:54 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Steve Levinson	6/28/02 7:32 a.m.
Re: Ouch!	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/30/02 5:11 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	C Lund	6/18/02 2:54 p.m.
Perceptions of Science	Steve Levinson	6/18/02 3:13 p.m.
My bad	Agent Cletus	6/18/02 3:45 p.m.
Re: My bad	Steve Levinson	6/18/02 3:59 p.m.
Re: My bad	Agent Cletus	6/18/02 5:13 p.m.
Re: My bad	Mazilurik	6/18/02 6:47 p.m.
Re: My bad	Tru7h	6/18/02 7:16 p.m.
Re: My bad	Yossarian	6/18/02 7:32 p.m.
Re: My bad	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/19/02 12:50 a.m.
Re: My bad	Steve Levinson	6/19/02 7:50 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/29/02 8:04 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/30/02 4:35 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone	Steve Levinson	6/30/02 2:58 p.m.
Slight spoiler	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/30/02 4:48 p.m.
Re: Slight spoiler	Steve Levinson	6/30/02 6:24 p.m.
Re: Slight spoiler	Inverted Sock Puppet	6/30/02 7:40 p.m.