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Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone
Posted By: Steve LevinsonDate: 6/19/02 7:48 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands Alone (Tru7h)

: no im Canadian, and NRA are a bunch of crazy people

Why are you badmouthing our NRA? Why if everyone carried a pair of magnums, an AR, a fusion rifle and a Dangi maser, crooks would think twice about mugging us ;-)

Seriously, the U.S. constitution hasn't required a rewrite precisely because it is one of the most brilliantly written political documents of all time, drawing on the best of what preceeded it in the Greek, Roman and Brittish empires. Yes, it contains a lot of compromises, but this is why it has been so successful. There are a lot of flaws, however, and the process for redressing these has been made so onerous that some thing will probably never be corrected - among these the second ammendment that the NRA loves so much, the lack of legislative representation from the District of Columbia (legitimately considered a racial issue), and the tremendous political disparity that gives a small state like Rhode Island a disproportionate share of power in Congress and in the Electoral College, making the election of a minority president like W possible ;-)

: ok, first the gass, Irak offered the inspectors to come back, but U.S.
: didnt want to under grounds that *they would produce it anyways*,
: i have yet to see the relevance in that comment. Suitcase nukes,
: dont woory you have Star wars to protect you:) *snicker*. show me
: one piece of evidence that Saddam is gearing up for war, just one.
: What makes this sad is that the only contry concerned about Irak
: these days is the U.S., the only reason for that is that Dubya needs
: another target to keep his popularity up, he is a wartime president,
: so if he wants to stay in power, he needs war's

Let's not stretch or distort the tru7h, but let's not exaggerate it either, which is what the Bush administration is doing. There's plenty of evidence that Irak has been geering up for war for years. Terrorism is war, and Saddam is one of it's biggest supporters - he pays the families of Palestinian suicide bombers money - and that's merely symbolic - he spends far more on the development of weapons of mass destruction and of mass terror.

However, Americans need to look closer to home when it comes to the support of terror. We import more than half our oil from the Middle East. Much of that oil money is funneled into terrorist organizations rather than being used constructively for such things as building a prosperous palestinian state that could live peacefully with Israel. And then there are the environmental issues - can you believe the Bush administration on this one - yes, global warming is real, so we're just going to have to learn to live with it??? I've thought about making a custom bumper sticker for my car - "Support terrorism - Drive an SUV" - but I'm afraid of an NRA member bashing my windows in ;-)

I agree that Bush is using Irak for political reasons, even if we do have justification for war with them. I also fear that he is taking it personally - unfinished family business.

Isn't it amazing how this thread has metastisized?

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Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneSteve Levinson 6/17/02 5:14 p.m.
     Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneYossarian 6/17/02 8:19 p.m.
           Great references - thanks *NM*Steve Levinson 6/17/02 10:06 p.m.
     Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneAgent Cletus 6/18/02 9:56 a.m.
           Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneBen A. Potter 6/18/02 12:09 p.m.
                 LOL, U prove my point. Cletus.Agent Cletus 6/18/02 12:34 p.m.
                       Re: LOL, U prove my point. Cletus.Steve Levinson 6/18/02 12:58 p.m.
                       So totally wrong . . .MakeMineRed 6/18/02 1:02 p.m.
                       again...Ben A. Potter 6/19/02 1:18 p.m.
                 I couldn't have said it better myselfSteve Levinson 6/18/02 12:40 p.m.
           Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneMakeMineRed 6/18/02 12:39 p.m.
           Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneYossarian 6/18/02 1:39 p.m.
                 Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneTru7h 6/18/02 2:34 p.m.
                       Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneYossarian 6/18/02 4:06 p.m.
                             Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneTru7h 6/18/02 7:11 p.m.
                                   Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneYossarian 6/18/02 7:20 p.m.
                                   Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneMazilurik 6/18/02 8:09 p.m.
                                   Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneAgent Cletus 6/19/02 6:29 a.m.
                                   Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneSteve Levinson 6/19/02 7:48 a.m.
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           Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneC Lund 6/18/02 2:54 p.m.
           Perceptions of ScienceSteve Levinson 6/18/02 3:13 p.m.
                 My badAgent Cletus 6/18/02 3:45 p.m.
                       Re: My badSteve Levinson 6/18/02 3:59 p.m.
                             Re: My badAgent Cletus 6/18/02 5:13 p.m.
                                   Re: My badMazilurik 6/18/02 6:47 p.m.
                                   Re: My badTru7h 6/18/02 7:16 p.m.
                                         Re: My badYossarian 6/18/02 7:32 p.m.
                                               Re: My badInverted Sock Puppet 6/19/02 12:50 a.m.
                                               Re: My badSteve Levinson 6/19/02 7:50 a.m.
     Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneSteve Levinson 6/29/02 8:04 p.m.
           Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneInverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 4:35 a.m.
                 Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Science Stands AloneSteve Levinson 6/30/02 2:58 p.m.
                       *Slight spoiler*Inverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 4:48 p.m.
                             Re: *Slight spoiler*Steve Levinson 6/30/02 6:24 p.m.
                                   Re: *Slight spoiler*Inverted Sock Puppet 6/30/02 7:40 p.m.



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