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Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..
Posted By: Hawaiian Pig	Date: 11/13/09 12:30 p.m.
In Response To: Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh.. (Cody Miller) : This is a good post and all, but why bother at this point. We've both made : our cases, and Bungie can either take our suggestions or leave them (I'm : guessing the latter). It's of no concern for me; I've got tons of games : and things to do to keep me occupied if Reach isn't good. Clarifying our terms. A colourful chart about flow doesn't say much. That and I really like the three higher-level elements-of-play concept; I wanted an excuse to explore them. I honestly didn't expect any developers (let alone forum users) to read it. It's an amateur piece of game theory with all primary and no prior secondary research. These concepts seem to get touched on here and there in discussions on TeamLiquid regarding Starcraft, but I think laying it out like this is a great way to break down highly-skilled play. Maybe I should have done it there instead, but I felt HBO would provide greater dissenting viewpoints. That, and if I can at least articulate these ideas to some here, maybe they'd get a better understanding of what we look for in games. I mean, is that not where the debate always goes? This isn't a manifesto of which Bungie should study and treat holy, but a guide to the mind of a gamer who enjoys the idea of competitive play.

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Message Index

So you guys want specifics on game design eh...	Hawaiian Pig	11/12/09 11:34 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	dizzy	11/12/09 11:53 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 12:02 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:19 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Avateur	11/13/09 12:44 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 1:11 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Avateur	11/13/09 1:31 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 1:45 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	ForShadow	11/13/09 12:52 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	reprobate	11/13/09 2:28 a.m.
namedrop B| *NM*	Cow	11/13/09 1:10 a.m.
no me *NM*	Eiii	11/13/09 2:13 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hunt3r	11/13/09 1:27 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/13/09 2:25 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 2:29 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 3:04 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 3:23 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	ThorsHammer	11/16/09 2:14 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 3:22 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 1:18 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 1:45 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/13/09 1:51 p.m.
anything not on the bottom LEFT *NM*	Cody Miller	11/13/09 1:52 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 2:02 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 3:17 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 10:36 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 10:51 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:06 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 11:20 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:37 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 11:56 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:09 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:06 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/13/09 3:56 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 11:43 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 11:05 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:48 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/14/09 7:50 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/14/09 1:27 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	11/14/09 1:43 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/14/09 2:00 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	scarab	11/14/09 2:38 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 5:06 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/14/09 5:32 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 6:11 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/14/09 1:07 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 10:47 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 11:01 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:28 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/14/09 12:28 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/15/09 10:00 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 11:50 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	RC Master	11/14/09 11:31 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/14/09 9:01 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/14/09 9:30 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/15/09 7:03 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/15/09 8:38 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/15/09 5:10 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	elessar787	11/16/09 12:49 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/16/09 2:47 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	ThorsHammer	11/16/09 5:14 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/16/09 8:12 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/16/09 10:24 p.m.
Great url for the image *NM*	Monochron	11/13/09 10:09 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/13/09 12:20 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:30 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 12:44 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:48 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 12:35 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	reprobate	11/13/09 11:12 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 12:08 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/14/09 6:31 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 7:14 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/14/09 9:24 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 9:53 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/14/09 10:20 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 10:23 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/13/09 3:29 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 4:15 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/13/09 4:47 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hedgemony	11/13/09 6:24 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/14/09 12:31 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	scarab	11/14/09 2:12 a.m.
Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 3:48 a.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	scarab	11/14/09 7:20 a.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	scarab	11/14/09 7:51 a.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 5:48 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	scarab	11/14/09 7:16 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/15/09 5:36 p.m.
How's high school going psychophan7? *NM*	General Vagueness	11/16/09 8:18 a.m.
Re: How's high school going psychophan7?	psychophan7	11/16/09 2:40 p.m.
That's good to hear. *NM*	General Vagueness	11/16/09 3:39 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	RC Master	11/14/09 3:41 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	General Vagueness	11/14/09 3:53 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 5:21 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	RC Master	11/14/09 7:18 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 9:59 p.m.