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Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..
Posted By: reprobate	Date: 11/13/09 2:28 a.m.
In Response To: Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh.. (ForShadow) : In reference to quake's focus on execution: I find it frustrating when it is : the controls that I am grappling with in a game, not the game itself. To : me, the human-computer interaction part of the game should be as smooth as : possible. I suppose this feeling stems from the fact that I don't find : that aspect of the game interesting enough to attempt to master it. I : never really like the jumping puzzles in fps games, but I have to admit : that finally getting them right gives a certain satisfaction just not : enough to justify their inclusion. Bunny hopping in Quake is not a jumping puzzle. If I recall correctly in Q3 Carmack and co. actually went back in and changed engine variables around the time of Q3 Test in order to give bunny hopping genuine utility again, because that was one of the things they wanted changed about Quake 3 vs. Quake 2. People whined (sounds familiar) and id caved. As a side note, bunny hopping or rocket jumping from Quake actually reminds me quite a bit of the whole BXR debate that's gone on here before, just from looking at their respective origins and uses by players.

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So you guys want specifics on game design eh...	Hawaiian Pig	11/12/09 11:34 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	dizzy	11/12/09 11:53 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 12:02 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:19 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Avateur	11/13/09 12:44 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 1:11 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Avateur	11/13/09 1:31 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 1:45 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	ForShadow	11/13/09 12:52 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	reprobate	11/13/09 2:28 a.m.
namedrop B| *NM*	Cow	11/13/09 1:10 a.m.
no me *NM*	Eiii	11/13/09 2:13 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hunt3r	11/13/09 1:27 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/13/09 2:25 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 2:29 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 3:04 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 3:23 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	ThorsHammer	11/16/09 2:14 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 3:22 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 1:18 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 1:45 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/13/09 1:51 p.m.
anything not on the bottom LEFT *NM*	Cody Miller	11/13/09 1:52 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 2:02 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 3:17 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 10:36 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 10:51 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:06 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 11:20 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:37 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 11:56 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:09 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:06 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/13/09 3:56 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/13/09 11:43 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 11:05 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:48 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/14/09 7:50 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/14/09 1:27 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	11/14/09 1:43 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/14/09 2:00 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	scarab	11/14/09 2:38 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 5:06 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/14/09 5:32 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 6:11 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	General Vagueness	11/14/09 1:07 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 10:47 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/13/09 11:01 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 11:28 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/14/09 12:28 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/15/09 10:00 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/13/09 11:50 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	RC Master	11/14/09 11:31 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/14/09 9:01 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/14/09 9:30 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Louis Wu	11/15/09 7:03 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/15/09 8:38 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/15/09 5:10 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	elessar787	11/16/09 12:49 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/16/09 2:47 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	ThorsHammer	11/16/09 5:14 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/16/09 8:12 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/16/09 10:24 p.m.
Great url for the image *NM*	Monochron	11/13/09 10:09 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Cody Miller	11/13/09 12:20 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:30 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 12:44 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 12:48 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/13/09 12:35 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	reprobate	11/13/09 11:12 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 12:08 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/14/09 6:31 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 7:14 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/14/09 9:24 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 9:53 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Eiii	11/14/09 10:20 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/14/09 10:23 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/13/09 3:29 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hawaiian Pig	11/13/09 4:15 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	psychophan7	11/13/09 4:47 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Hedgemony	11/13/09 6:24 p.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	Narcogen	11/14/09 12:31 a.m.
Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh..	scarab	11/14/09 2:12 a.m.
Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 3:48 a.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	scarab	11/14/09 7:20 a.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	scarab	11/14/09 7:51 a.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 5:48 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	scarab	11/14/09 7:16 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/15/09 5:36 p.m.
How's high school going psychophan7? *NM*	General Vagueness	11/16/09 8:18 a.m.
Re: How's high school going psychophan7?	psychophan7	11/16/09 2:40 p.m.
That's good to hear. *NM*	General Vagueness	11/16/09 3:39 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	RC Master	11/14/09 3:41 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	General Vagueness	11/14/09 3:53 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 5:21 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	RC Master	11/14/09 7:18 p.m.
Re: Oh please, no.	psychophan7	11/14/09 9:59 p.m.