| Re: So you guys want specifics on game design eh.. |
| Posted By: Eiii <eri3ch@gmail.com> | Date: 11/13/09 12:02 a.m. |
In Response To: So you guys want specifics on game design eh... (Hawaiian Pig)
: To be sure, imperfect knowledge is not the key to solving issues of strategy,
: I just find it quite interesting and the level of knowledge available to a
: player greatly defines the type of game you're playing. To this end, the
: availability of information regarding your opponent CAN be perfect and you
: can still avoid equilibrium by compensating with... sufficient complexity!
: Chess is a game of perfect knowledge, however the available strategies
: are so complex that it's hard for one to truly dominate. Twitch shooters
: such as Quake (and many sports) may involve perfect (or close to perfect)
: knowledge, however the complexity involved in execution can be so great
: that the competition remains rich.
Not a big deal, but this is crazy wrong. In a Quake duel the *only* information you have about your opponent is what weapons they have (based on what they shoot at you with) and what stack you assume they have based on how long they've been alive, what areas you assume they've been in control of or visited during armor/powerup spawn times (which you have to keep track of as well, so even that's not %100 certain unless you were the last to get that powerup and you have a clock in your head), where you know they aren't, what you think their current goal is, etc, etc, etc. Dueling in Quake is incredibly hard, and incredibly deep.
But yeah, good post.
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| So you guys want specifics on game design eh... | Hawaiian Pig | 11/12/09 11:34 p.m. |
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| Oh please, no. | psychophan7 | 11/14/09 3:48 a.m. |
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