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Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...
Posted By: NelomsDate: 7/31/08 11:30 p.m.

In Response To: ummm, maybe im wrong but... (ActiveCamoElite)


: I always assumed when spark said "you" he ment
: "forerunner".

: as in, he was using "you" in a very general sense, he was refering
: to our entire species. so that means, someone at some point asked spark if
: he would do it if it was his choice, and sense he has been isolated on
: halo, he doesnt know that we humans didnt inherit what we were sapose too,
: that the covenant did. which would explain why he's so confused about
: master chief's lack of knowledge about everything.

: or maybe not, thats just what i always thought.

Well the theory that Guilty Spark is referring to all of Humanity as "you" does hold up for two of the quotes:

"Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?" and
"To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating."

In the first "you" could refer to Humanity or the forerunner, if Guilty Spark sees the Chief as Forerunner. In the Second "our" can refer to Guilty Spark as well as humanity. That makes perfect sense.

However, this quote, "you" almost definitely is referring to the Chief personally:

"Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it?"

It's very unlikely that all of Humanity or the forerunners as a whole asked Guilty Spark if it was his choice would he do it. The you in this sentence is almost definitely personal, implying that the Chief asked Guilty Spark this question directly.

Also, the chief having no recollection of meeting Guilty Spark makes perfect sense. The Chief personally hasn't met him in the past up until this point in history since he had not yet gone back into the past. The Chief's personal experience is the following:
He is born, is abducted, is forced to serve in the Spartan II Program, finds Halo, meets guilty Spark, Returns to Earth, goes to Delta Halo, Returns to Earth, goes to the Ark, is sent into the past where he meets Guilty Spark and inevitably dies of old age or by the activation of Halo.

Guilty Spark recalls the Chief in the past since he was there in the past. The Chief does not recall Guilty Spark in the past since he was not yet in the past. The Chief in the past is at the end of his personal time line, not before he travelled to the first Halo in 2552.

God, time travel IS confusing >.<.


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My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Neloms 7/30/08 10:01 p.m.
     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Avateur 7/31/08 4:02 a.m.
           Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*GatchamanUK 7/31/08 4:24 a.m.
                 Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Narcogen 7/31/08 4:29 a.m.
                       Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*GatchamanUK 7/31/08 4:43 a.m.
                             Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Narcogen 7/31/08 5:57 a.m.
                                   Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*GatchamanUK 7/31/08 7:40 a.m.
                                         Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Ross Mills 7/31/08 7:54 a.m.
                                               Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*UNSC_Trooper 7/31/08 8:05 a.m.
                                                     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Ross Mills 7/31/08 8:20 a.m.
                                                           Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Avateur 7/31/08 2:25 p.m.
                                   What the hell's a gigawatt!!?!? *NM*Schedonnardus 7/31/08 10:12 a.m.
                                         You need 1.21 of them! *NM*SonofMacPhisto 7/31/08 1:43 p.m.
                                               I love how he calls them "Jiggawatts!" =) *NM*mendicantbias00 7/31/08 2:02 p.m.
                                                     Funny you say that...xMixMasterx 7/31/08 2:19 p.m.
                                                           Technically he is right...mendicantbias00 7/31/08 2:37 p.m.
                                                           Re: Funny you say that...Louis Wu 7/31/08 2:39 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Funny you say that...gunluva 7/31/08 3:38 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Funny you say that...xMixMasterX 9/23/08 5:52 p.m.
                                   Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Miguel Chavez 7/31/08 11:48 a.m.
                                   Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*elessar787 7/31/08 1:38 p.m.
                                         Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Speedhuntr 7/31/08 3:40 p.m.
                                         Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Narcogen 8/1/08 12:28 a.m.
                                               Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 8/1/08 10:32 a.m.
                                                     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Blackstar 8/2/08 7:50 p.m.
           I hate to admit it...Narcogen 7/31/08 4:26 a.m.
                 Re: I hate to admit it...Avateur 7/31/08 6:30 a.m.
                       Re: I hate to admit it...SonofMacPhisto 7/31/08 2:31 p.m.
                             Re: I hate to admit it...Narcogen 8/1/08 12:20 a.m.
                                   Re: I hate to admit it...SonofMacPhisto 8/1/08 1:00 a.m.
                 Re: I hate to admit it... *long*SonofMacPhisto 7/31/08 2:09 p.m.
                       Re: I hate to admit it... *long*Kiloh Ekim 7/31/08 5:09 p.m.
     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*xMixMasterx 7/31/08 7:04 a.m.
     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Buttskunk 7/31/08 9:02 a.m.
     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*General Vagueness 7/31/08 9:31 a.m.
     I would love this....yakaman 7/31/08 11:24 a.m.
     ummm, maybe im wrong but...ActiveCamoElite 7/31/08 9:54 p.m.
           Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...SonofMacPhisto 7/31/08 11:13 p.m.
           Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...Neloms 7/31/08 11:30 p.m.
                 Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...SonofMacPhisto 8/1/08 12:12 a.m.
                       Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...Neloms 8/1/08 8:53 a.m.
                             Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...scarab 8/1/08 2:34 p.m.
                 While we're on GS quotesxMixMasterx 8/1/08 7:24 a.m.
                       Re: While we're on GS quotesCrackshot53 8/1/08 9:29 p.m.
                             Re: While we're on GS quotesThaMahstah 9/18/08 2:56 p.m.
                                   Re: While we're on GS quotesThaMahstah 9/18/08 3:00 p.m.
                                         Re: While we're on GS quotesUrsusArctos 9/19/08 6:23 a.m.
                                   Re: While we're on GS quotespete_the_duck 9/18/08 3:15 p.m.
                 Re: ummm, maybe im wrong but...Rox 9/6/08 10:34 a.m.
     Great Theory, a couple of thoughts thoughonebitrocket 8/1/08 6:49 a.m.
     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Desmond X 9/5/08 3:56 p.m.
           Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long* *NM*scarab 9/5/08 6:27 p.m.
           Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*Jillybean 9/6/08 6:11 a.m.
           Cortana went back there, huh?UrsusArctos 9/18/08 7:46 a.m.
                 Re: Cortana went back there, huh?Brian Wahl 9/18/08 8:12 a.m.
                       Re: Cortana went back there, huh?Jillybean 9/18/08 1:29 p.m.
                             Re: Cortana went back there, huh?Brian Wahl 9/18/08 2:01 p.m.
                                   Re: Cortana went back there, huh?Jillybean 9/18/08 2:25 p.m.
                                         Re: Cortana went back there, huh?Urk 9/18/08 2:32 p.m.
                                         Re: Cortana went back there, huh?ThaMahstah 9/18/08 2:34 p.m.
                                         True. Very true. *NM*UrsusArctos 9/19/08 6:17 a.m.
                                         Re: Cortana went back there, huh?SonofMacPhisto 9/19/08 4:38 p.m.
                       Re: Cortana went back there, huh?UrsusArctos 9/19/08 6:15 a.m.
                             Re: Cortana went back there, huh?P1TVIPER 9/20/08 10:10 a.m.
                                   Mitochondrial Eve = Librarian? *NM*Jillybean 9/20/08 10:39 a.m.
                                         Nah *SP*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/20/08 11:05 a.m.
                                               Re: Nah *SP*Jillybean 9/20/08 11:34 a.m.
                                                     Re: Nah *SP*UrsusArctos 9/20/08 9:46 p.m.
                                         Re: Mitochondrial pillars of hercukes ;) *NM*vshields ash 9/21/08 1:28 p.m.
     Hopefully helping with the understanding:Ragnarok 9/23/08 3:57 p.m.
           Opinion *Long*Relative Assessment 9/26/08 10:50 p.m.
     Re: My Theory on the Legendary Ending *kinda long*jdpowers19 10/13/08 12:48 a.m.



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