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We may have overlooked one little plot issue
Posted By: RVideo <racer4770@aim.com>Date: 1/11/07 4:50 p.m.

In Response To: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LONG (Cody Miller)


: At first it would seem that women are given equal status in the Halo
: universe. With Halo 2 in particular, we fight along side female marines,
: and no particular fuss is made. These marines are not sexualized; in fact
: they closely resemble their male counterparts. However, it is quite ironic
: that in order to gain equality, women must take on traditionally masculine
: roles. The female marines do not seem to have much femininity left, as
: many such feminine traits are obscured by their costumes, and military
: behavior. The very idea of a soldier and a fighter is traditionally
: masculine, and so while these women gain equality, they do it at the
: expense of their feminine identity.

I forgot to add this in my previous post: Has anyone wondered about the reasoning behind the increased presence of female marines in Halo2's story over HaloCE? The most memorable female marine in HaloCE was the escape pod pilot (Dont know what it is, but we are landing on it). Halo2 shows us more female characters than it's predecessor.

What I was thinking was this: In Halo2, Earth is in immediate jeopardy, whereas in HaloCE, all of the missions are 'away' so to speak.

Perhaps it was a question of lack of available marines to counter the alien invasion? Was earth ready for such an invasion, or was it's military designed more as a peacekeeper before the Covenant?

If you dont have enough men to do the job, then there are only two options: Create synthetic military units or recruit women (or pull them from behind the lines positions such as military office/health or whatever).

In times past (in real life), there were many instances where a nation turned to it's women in times of need. It may simply be a question of personnel logistics, not role playing.


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Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LONGCody Miller 1/10/07 9:32 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJman 1/10/07 10:12 p.m.
           sOT: quote formattingLouis Wu 1/11/07 5:40 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 7:10 a.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOLouis Wu 1/11/07 8:03 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOLittlebigman 1/10/07 10:50 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOQsExile 1/10/07 10:55 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOscarab 1/11/07 12:08 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOQsExile 1/11/07 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOscarab 1/11/07 7:11 a.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOhnc 1/11/07 4:00 p.m.
           OMG!MffnMn 1/11/07 7:15 p.m.
                 Re: OMG!QsExile 1/11/07 10:59 p.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSlimby 1/12/07 5:49 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOcypher 1/11/07 1:15 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 2:54 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOMrAlexZander 1/11/07 3:07 a.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSniping Ajax 1/11/07 2:12 p.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOLouis Wu 1/11/07 5:59 a.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 7:07 a.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 8:31 a.m.
                             Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 10:19 a.m.
                             Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSniping Ajax 1/11/07 2:04 p.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:11 p.m.
                             Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 12:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 12:20 p.m.
                                         Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODangerousHippo 1/11/07 4:01 p.m.
                             Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 12:18 p.m.
                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:38 p.m.
                                         Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 12:50 p.m.
                                               Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOtarehart 1/11/07 3:55 p.m.
                             Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOCody Miller 1/11/07 12:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOMullet Man 1/13/07 8:42 p.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOQuantum 1/11/07 6:32 p.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOMullet Man 1/13/07 8:33 p.m.
                             But how decreased?DanteThePoet 1/14/07 12:16 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOBrian Graham 1/11/07 2:57 p.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODanteThePoet 1/14/07 6:16 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOreprobate 1/11/07 3:13 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LORVideo 1/11/07 6:18 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 8:43 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 7:02 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOscarab 1/11/07 7:29 a.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 10:23 a.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOCody Miller 1/11/07 12:28 p.m.
     Femininity eh??N1NJ4 1/11/07 10:23 a.m.
           Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 10:42 a.m.
                 Re: Femininity eh??Ross Mills [subnova] 1/11/07 11:19 a.m.
                 Re: Femininity eh??The More Deluded 1/11/07 12:09 p.m.
                 Re: Femininity eh??N1NJ4 1/11/07 12:32 p.m.
                       Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 12:47 p.m.
                             Re: Femininity eh??Wraith7n 1/11/07 12:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 12:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Femininity eh??Wraith7n 1/11/07 12:57 p.m.
                                               Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 12:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: Femininity eh??The More Deluded 1/11/07 1:07 p.m.
                                                           Re: Femininity eh??Wraith7n 1/11/07 1:12 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Femininity eh??raptor117 1/11/07 1:20 p.m.
                                                                       DAMN! a minute too late :) *NM*The More Deluded 1/11/07 1:22 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Femininity eh??The More Deluded 1/11/07 1:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Femininity eh??QsExile 1/12/07 12:48 a.m.
                 She Speaks No Lie...Mintz 1/11/07 5:10 p.m.
           Re: Femininity eh??hnc 1/11/07 4:40 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LO*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo And Sonic Fan 1/11/07 10:30 a.m.
     Why?Pinkuh 1/11/07 11:11 a.m.
           Re: Why?Sep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 11:59 a.m.
           Re: Why?Omak2007 1/11/07 11:59 a.m.
           Re: Why?mercury 1/11/07 12:03 p.m.
                 Re: Why?Pinkuh 1/11/07 12:11 p.m.
                       Re: Why?Wraith7n 1/11/07 12:19 p.m.
                             LOL *NM*huskerblackshrt 1/11/07 8:21 p.m.
           Re: Why?yakaman 1/11/07 12:30 p.m.
                 Re: Why?raptor117 1/11/07 1:18 p.m.
                       Re: Why?hnc 1/11/07 4:25 p.m.
                             Re: Why?raptor117 1/11/07 6:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Why?hnc 1/12/07 10:44 a.m.
                                         Re: Why?raptor117 1/12/07 11:22 a.m.
           I personally had a conversation with Statan.DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:48 p.m.
                 Re: I personally had a conversation with Statan.Melkor 1/11/07 4:56 p.m.
                       Re: I personally had a conversation with Statan.The More Deluded 1/11/07 5:57 p.m.
                             Re: I personally had a conversation with Statan.Wraith7n 1/11/07 7:20 p.m.
                                   Same person. *NM*DanteThePoet 1/12/07 1:44 a.m.
           Re: Why?Jillybean 1/11/07 12:50 p.m.
                 Re: Why?reprobate 1/11/07 4:46 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 12:06 p.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOThe More Deluded 1/11/07 1:59 p.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 2:05 p.m.
     I don't really have any more to say except...DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:16 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Sep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 12:29 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Schedonnardus 1/11/07 12:39 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:45 p.m.
                       Re: I don't really have any more to say except...hnc 1/11/07 4:32 p.m.
           And further...DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:35 p.m.
                 Re: And further...Endbringer 1/11/07 1:23 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...hnc 1/11/07 3:54 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...houseoftang 1/11/07 7:22 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Cody Miller 1/12/07 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Brian Graham 1/12/07 3:12 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...houseoftang 1/12/07 5:51 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Black Guard 1/13/07 5:32 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOCANTANATRIX 1/11/07 12:21 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOHellhawk 1/11/07 4:09 p.m.
     We may have overlooked one little plot issueRVideo 1/11/07 4:50 p.m.
           Re: We may have overlooked one little plot issueUrsusArctos 1/12/07 9:48 p.m.
     Gender in Halo Fan Fictionhouseoftang 1/11/07 6:37 p.m.
     Cortana: a Defence (R.E Gender)CANTANATRIX 1/11/07 8:09 p.m.
           Re: Cortana: a Defence (R.E Gender)Oo Sol oO 1/12/07 11:00 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOHipboyScott 1/12/07 4:00 p.m.



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