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Re: Femininity eh??
Posted By: JillybeanDate: 1/11/07 10:42 a.m.

In Response To: Femininity eh?? (N1NJ4)


: Femininity and weakness are necessarily intertwined, simply because of what
: they are. Hopefully I won't get in too much trouble for this, but look at
: it from a human nature standpoint. Historically (I mean really
: historically) men have been responsible for fighting. It is hardly
: coincidence either. Testosterone is a great thing to have a lot of if you
: are going to be fighting in a war. Generally in war (less so with today's
: technology) the biggest and the strongest are the best fighters, and women
: are just not genetically inclined to being the biggest and the strongest.
: Because of this, and god knows what else, big strong women aren't
: popularly considered to be particularly attractive. It is less of an issue
: of how the game portrays the women, than what our society expects of them.
: Traditionally, the traits of a warrior are male, while female traits are
: decidedly not so. As a fighter, today's concepts of femininity are very
: much undesirable, although changes in society are making this decreasingly
: true.

Okay - if we were sitting in a room together I'd be able to laugh with you and hopefully point out that I'm not angry with you, I just disagree. Strongly.

Femininity and weakness are necessarily intertwined, simply because of what they are.
No, no, no, no, no!!! And again with the no! Femininity is not a weakeness. What exactly do you mean by 'feminine', because I don't want to rant at you for no reason.

If you're talking about flowers and skirts and thin bodies I can kind of see where you're coming from. But if I wore three inch stilettos today and did flame spectroscopy in my lab. I don't want to come off as a stereotype, but just because I wear flowers does not make me a weak person. And yes, I'm small, but I've been in fights and I've thrown punches (not just at other girls either - hazard of drinking in Glasgow) If feminine is merely a declaration of strength, then you can define a lot of men as feminine.

If by feminine you mean loving babies and animals and flirting - attitude as opposed to appearances - then you're equally misguided. Flirting and sexiness is something very different from 'femininity. It's the expression of a need that is present in all humans, regardles of gender, as primal as hunger. Flirting is a social interaction that frequently means nothing. As for the babies and cute animals thing - there's no shame or weakness in compassion, and you've heard the lengths mothers will go to to protect their children - is that weakness?


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           sOT: quote formattingLouis Wu 1/11/07 5:40 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 7:10 a.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOLouis Wu 1/11/07 8:03 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOLittlebigman 1/10/07 10:50 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOQsExile 1/10/07 10:55 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOscarab 1/11/07 12:08 a.m.
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           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSlimby 1/12/07 5:49 p.m.
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                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOSep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 12:20 p.m.
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                                               Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOtarehart 1/11/07 3:55 p.m.
                             Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOCody Miller 1/11/07 12:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOMullet Man 1/13/07 8:42 p.m.
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                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOMullet Man 1/13/07 8:33 p.m.
                             But how decreased?DanteThePoet 1/14/07 12:16 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOBrian Graham 1/11/07 2:57 p.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LODanteThePoet 1/14/07 6:16 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOreprobate 1/11/07 3:13 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LORVideo 1/11/07 6:18 a.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 8:43 a.m.
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                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOJillybean 1/11/07 10:23 a.m.
                       Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOCody Miller 1/11/07 12:28 p.m.
     Femininity eh??N1NJ4 1/11/07 10:23 a.m.
           Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 10:42 a.m.
                 Re: Femininity eh??Ross Mills [subnova] 1/11/07 11:19 a.m.
                 Re: Femininity eh??The More Deluded 1/11/07 12:09 p.m.
                 Re: Femininity eh??N1NJ4 1/11/07 12:32 p.m.
                       Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 12:47 p.m.
                             Re: Femininity eh??Wraith7n 1/11/07 12:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 12:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Femininity eh??Wraith7n 1/11/07 12:57 p.m.
                                               Re: Femininity eh??Jillybean 1/11/07 12:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: Femininity eh??The More Deluded 1/11/07 1:07 p.m.
                                                           Re: Femininity eh??Wraith7n 1/11/07 1:12 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Femininity eh??raptor117 1/11/07 1:20 p.m.
                                                                       DAMN! a minute too late :) *NM*The More Deluded 1/11/07 1:22 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Femininity eh??The More Deluded 1/11/07 1:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Femininity eh??QsExile 1/12/07 12:48 a.m.
                 She Speaks No Lie...Mintz 1/11/07 5:10 p.m.
           Re: Femininity eh??hnc 1/11/07 4:40 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LO*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo And Sonic Fan 1/11/07 10:30 a.m.
     Why?Pinkuh 1/11/07 11:11 a.m.
           Re: Why?Sep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 11:59 a.m.
           Re: Why?Omak2007 1/11/07 11:59 a.m.
           Re: Why?mercury 1/11/07 12:03 p.m.
                 Re: Why?Pinkuh 1/11/07 12:11 p.m.
                       Re: Why?Wraith7n 1/11/07 12:19 p.m.
                             LOL *NM*huskerblackshrt 1/11/07 8:21 p.m.
           Re: Why?yakaman 1/11/07 12:30 p.m.
                 Re: Why?raptor117 1/11/07 1:18 p.m.
                       Re: Why?hnc 1/11/07 4:25 p.m.
                             Re: Why?raptor117 1/11/07 6:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Why?hnc 1/12/07 10:44 a.m.
                                         Re: Why?raptor117 1/12/07 11:22 a.m.
           I personally had a conversation with Statan.DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:48 p.m.
                 Re: I personally had a conversation with Statan.Melkor 1/11/07 4:56 p.m.
                       Re: I personally had a conversation with Statan.The More Deluded 1/11/07 5:57 p.m.
                             Re: I personally had a conversation with Statan.Wraith7n 1/11/07 7:20 p.m.
                                   Same person. *NM*DanteThePoet 1/12/07 1:44 a.m.
           Re: Why?Jillybean 1/11/07 12:50 p.m.
                 Re: Why?reprobate 1/11/07 4:46 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 12:06 p.m.
           Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOThe More Deluded 1/11/07 1:59 p.m.
                 Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOWraith7n 1/11/07 2:05 p.m.
     I don't really have any more to say except...DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:16 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Sep7imus [subnova] 1/11/07 12:29 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Schedonnardus 1/11/07 12:39 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:45 p.m.
                       Re: I don't really have any more to say except...hnc 1/11/07 4:32 p.m.
           And further...DanteThePoet 1/11/07 12:35 p.m.
                 Re: And further...Endbringer 1/11/07 1:23 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...hnc 1/11/07 3:54 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...houseoftang 1/11/07 7:22 p.m.
           Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Cody Miller 1/12/07 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Brian Graham 1/12/07 3:12 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...houseoftang 1/12/07 5:51 p.m.
                 Re: I don't really have any more to say except...Black Guard 1/13/07 5:32 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOCANTANATRIX 1/11/07 12:21 p.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOHellhawk 1/11/07 4:09 p.m.
     We may have overlooked one little plot issueRVideo 1/11/07 4:50 p.m.
           Re: We may have overlooked one little plot issueUrsusArctos 1/12/07 9:48 p.m.
     Gender in Halo Fan Fictionhouseoftang 1/11/07 6:37 p.m.
     Cortana: a Defence (R.E Gender)CANTANATRIX 1/11/07 8:09 p.m.
           Re: Cortana: a Defence (R.E Gender)Oo Sol oO 1/12/07 11:00 a.m.
     Re: Gender in Halo 2 (response to DanteThePoet) LOHipboyScott 1/12/07 4:00 p.m.



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