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Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.
Posted By: Rams <Ramsxxxiv@3dactionplanet.com>Date: 5/17/04 8:47 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please. (Wado SG)

: I hate to take anything out of context... but in response to this one point

: It was obviously fan fiction from the start, the meta tags in the html code,
: which were posted many times on the forum, contained the words "Fan
: Fiction." It was Fan Fiction, the questions lay in that gray area
: where we did not know how much "insider" information this fan
: had. I thought is was the Halo Story page guys, I was fooled, but my
: enjoyment was still for real.

My point is that many people were mislead. Apparently you were one of them. I'm glad you were not upset about it or that your enjoyment wasn't tainted due to that fact. But some people's where and it's is still not a very good thing to someone to do.

: You know, I can argue til the goats come home, but I realize I have a
: conflict of interest here. Before even looking at the facts, I'm going to
: support Louis and the crew here at HBO because I like and respect them. So
: obviously, it is not fair of me to take sides here.

: But on the other hand, Rams, you too have a conflict of interest. You run
: your own Halo fan site. Don't you have a responsibility too, for
: validating information you present to the fans? Would it not have been
: just as easy for you to email Bungie and Louis (since the stories were
: hosted on Bungie.org) and ask for some clarification?

Well for starters I am in a manner of speaking "retired" so I don't spend nearly as much time helping BGH out as before. With Enkidu I just happened to notice it during a very busy time and of course it ended so soon afterwords. Also I have a great respect for Louis and honestly didn't expect him to do something like this.

However yes I will agree that I should have contacted Bungie to ask them. That was a mistake on my part and I have no problem owning up to it.

: It's hard to tell where you are coming from, sometimes your complaints read
: like the envious middle sibling. You're not the oldest so you don't get
: all the freedom and responsibility, but you're not the youngest so you
: don't get all the attention.

Do what? All I have ever said was that I don't agree with the manner in which this bit of Fan Fiction was presented. I don't like that many people thought it was from Bungie and neither Louis or the author bothered to clear that up until the end.

: Can you remove yourself for a moment from this conflict of interest and just
: look at the fans that participated in the whole thing? There is a whole
: generation of fans that just experienced something close to the original
: Cortana Letters. This was an experience that you can't buy, you can't
: learn, you can only feel it.

Yes but that experience was based in part on a misconception. That misconception being that this was in fact halo 2 information from Bungie. I don't think you would agree that giving out false information is correct? So why is this any better in that sense.

: These are some of the things that make the Bungie community come together and
: stand out.

I love this community which is why I don't like them getting tricked just for one person's sake.

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Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 10:59 a.m.
     Re: kudos.Sep7imus [subnova] 5/16/04 11:06 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Uriel 5/16/04 11:06 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Stuntmutt 5/16/04 11:08 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 12:21 p.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.monctezuma 5/16/04 4:26 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Ryan G 5/16/04 11:08 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Jagged 5/16/04 7:26 p.m.
     Kudos, then.Jota Rota 5/16/04 11:09 a.m.
           Re: Kudos, then.Walshicus 5/16/04 11:23 a.m.
                 Re: Kudos, then.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 11:38 a.m.
                       Re: Kudos, then.Walshicus 5/16/04 11:41 a.m.
     Re: Frog blast the vent core!Sep7imus [subnova] 5/16/04 11:09 a.m.
     Gah!Blitzwolf 5/16/04 11:11 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Stuntmutt 5/16/04 11:14 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Tycho/Howard 5/16/04 11:19 a.m.
     You byfar are one of the best writers I have everLittlebigman 5/16/04 11:23 a.m.
           Re: You byfar are one of the best writers I have eAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 12:28 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Warlock 5/16/04 11:26 a.m.
     ThanksScipio 5/16/04 11:32 a.m.
           Re: ThanksAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 11:43 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Mogwong 5/16/04 11:39 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Colopatiron 5/16/04 11:47 a.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Mogwong 5/16/04 11:49 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 11:53 a.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Colopatiron 5/16/04 11:59 a.m.
     Giant kudos and heartfelt thanks!JKatkina 5/16/04 11:47 a.m.
           Re: Giant kudos and heartfelt thanks!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 12:03 p.m.
                 Re: Giant kudos and heartfelt thanks!JKatkina 5/16/04 12:12 p.m.
     Well done.Wintermute @ work 5/16/04 12:18 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Jota Rota 5/16/04 12:20 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Milamber 5/16/04 12:35 p.m.
     Felt Like I Finished A Good Book =) *NM*Fuzzy 5/16/04 12:57 p.m.
           Re: Felt Like I Finished A Good Book =)Smeeisqualityfootrot 5/16/04 7:49 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Mark Simmons 5/16/04 1:05 p.m.
     Great job, man, seriously.Mr. Mechanical 5/16/04 1:25 p.m.
           Re: Great job, man, seriously.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 1:29 p.m.
                 Re: Great job, man, seriously.Colopatiron 5/16/04 1:50 p.m.
                       Re: Great job, man, seriously.Mr. Mechanical 5/16/04 2:00 p.m.
                             Re: Great job, man, seriously.Mr. Mechanical 5/17/04 3:54 a.m.
     Flame Time!Exogenesis 5/16/04 2:47 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.AeroJonesy 5/16/04 3:27 p.m.
     ... I guess I have to read it, sometime...BOLL 5/16/04 3:42 p.m.
           Re: ... I guess I have to read it, sometime...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 4:01 p.m.
                 Re: ... I guess I have to read it, sometime...Wado SG 5/16/04 7:08 p.m.
     Kudos is not the right word.Cerami 5/16/04 3:52 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.whoaho! 5/16/04 4:12 p.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 4:19 p.m.
     So much fun I don't know where to start !!Alexander Valient 5/16/04 4:34 p.m.
     Nice workCiarán 5/16/04 5:02 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Wado SG 5/16/04 6:06 p.m.
     C&CCelegur 5/16/04 6:10 p.m.
           Storyline in Games (was Re: C&C)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 7:03 p.m.
                 Re: Storyline in Games (was Re: C&C)Anonymous Coward 01 5/16/04 7:49 p.m.
                       Re: Storyline in Games (was Re: C&C)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 8:10 p.m.
                 Re: Storyline in Games (was Re: C&C)Celegur 5/16/04 8:32 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Gre'Thor117 5/16/04 6:32 p.m.
     Incredible work! Nice job :) *NM*MikeMan445 5/16/04 6:43 p.m.
     This is one darned big thread.Saint 5/16/04 7:11 p.m.
           Ack! Stuck in aweAkba 5/16/04 8:00 p.m.
     Hey, get the First Strike Mod Team on it! *NM*Anonymous Coward 01 5/16/04 8:03 p.m.
           Who cares? Just make it playable! *NM*Alexander Valient 5/16/04 9:07 p.m.
     *clap, clap, clap*MrFluffyPants 5/16/04 8:15 p.m.
     WowJamirus99 5/16/04 8:47 p.m.
     Very nice work. It was great! *NM*Arteen 5/16/04 9:14 p.m.
     Great work, but...BGH TankRamp 5/16/04 10:00 p.m.
           Re: Great work, but...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/16/04 10:15 p.m.
                 Re: Great work, but...Mogwong 5/16/04 10:26 p.m.
           Re: Great work, but...Wado SG 5/17/04 12:44 a.m.
     It's been fun.dizzy [subnova] 5/16/04 10:55 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Khaim 5/16/04 11:05 p.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/16/04 11:11 p.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.LostRock11 5/16/04 11:42 p.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.MC vince 5/17/04 12:04 a.m.
                       Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 1:03 a.m.
                             Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Tarrsk 5/17/04 1:42 a.m.
                             Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.MikeMan445 5/17/04 2:53 a.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Tarrsk 5/17/04 3:27 a.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 4:50 a.m.
                                         Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Tarrsk 5/17/04 5:31 a.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 6:09 a.m.
                                                     My God.MikeMan445 5/17/04 6:19 a.m.
                                                           Re: My God.Rams 5/17/04 6:28 a.m.
                                                                 Re: My God.Andrew Nagy 5/21/04 2:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.MikeMan445 5/17/04 5:58 a.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 6:21 a.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Louis Wu 5/17/04 11:46 a.m.
                                                           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 8:44 p.m.
                                                                 *tut*Colopatiron 5/17/04 8:58 p.m.
                                                           PredictionsNarcogen 5/20/04 6:33 a.m.
                                                                 Re: PredictionsLouis Wu 5/20/04 8:27 a.m.
                                                                       Re: PredictionsNarcogen 5/21/04 12:17 a.m.
                                                                 Re: PredictionsWintermute @ work 5/21/04 7:26 a.m.
                                               Enkidu FLAMES and kudosAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/17/04 6:31 a.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu FLAMES and kudosMikeMan445 5/17/04 6:43 a.m.
                                                           Re: Enkidu FLAMES and kudosAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/17/04 7:00 a.m.
                             Even if you didn't look at the source code...qw0ntum 5/17/04 1:48 p.m.
     Well doneRed Loser 5/16/04 11:36 p.m.
     *clap**clap* Well done.343winks 5/16/04 11:54 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.SR Omniscient 5/17/04 12:30 a.m.
           Great jobFlamingbuddha 5/17/04 1:27 a.m.
     Just in case you missed it...the Ouroboros 5/17/04 1:29 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.daedalus 5/17/04 1:38 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 2:22 a.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Tarrsk 5/17/04 3:26 a.m.
                       Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 5:39 a.m.
                             Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Ciarán 5/17/04 7:21 a.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/17/04 7:37 a.m.
                             Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Louis Wu 5/17/04 12:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 8:45 p.m.
                                         *arches brow*the Ouroboros 5/18/04 2:05 a.m.
                                               Re: *arches brow*Target4Hire 5/18/04 12:44 p.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Narcogen 5/20/04 6:47 a.m.
                                         Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Louis Wu 5/20/04 8:32 a.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Narcogen 5/21/04 12:16 a.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Louis Wu 5/21/04 8:28 a.m.
                                                           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/21/04 6:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Andrew Nagy 5/21/04 2:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Louis Wu 5/21/04 2:22 p.m.
                                         What's wrong with people?Capo Rip 5/21/04 7:27 a.m.
                             Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Wado SG 5/17/04 1:00 p.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu and some HBO lovin'Target4Hire 5/17/04 4:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 8:47 p.m.
                                         Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/17/04 8:48 p.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Miguel Chavez 5/18/04 12:21 a.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Rams 5/19/04 1:57 p.m.
                                                           flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelingsXraf 5/20/04 11:05 a.m.
                                                                 Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinthe Ouroboros 5/20/04 5:09 p.m.
                                                                       Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinXraf 5/21/04 7:36 a.m.
                                                                             Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinAndrew Nagy 5/21/04 2:07 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinXraf 5/21/04 4:02 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinLouis Wu 5/21/04 4:56 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/21/04 5:56 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: flames & kudos: Explaining the negative feelinWado SG 5/21/04 7:20 p.m.
                                   Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Druff 5/18/04 2:01 p.m.
                                         Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Tarrsk 5/18/04 3:28 p.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Druff 5/18/04 4:05 p.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Druff 5/18/04 4:09 p.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Wado SG 5/18/04 4:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Druff 5/18/04 4:16 p.m.
                                                           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Wado SG 5/18/04 4:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/18/04 9:35 p.m.
                                               Enkidu is a bastard child, yet no less worthy *NM*the Ouroboros 5/18/04 11:29 p.m.
                                                     Hmph, no, YOUR Mom.Enkidu 5/19/04 12:18 a.m.
                                                           Re: Hmph, no, YOUR Mom.Tarrsk 5/19/04 1:07 a.m.
                                               Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Narcogen 5/20/04 6:51 a.m.
                                                     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/20/04 7:21 a.m.
                                                           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Narcogen 5/21/04 12:13 a.m.
                             Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Mogwong 5/18/04 2:51 p.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Mogwong 5/18/04 2:40 p.m.
     nice workSocrates 5/17/04 3:06 a.m.
     Two Thumbs UpX-Isle 5/17/04 8:40 a.m.
           Re: Two Thumbs UpAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/17/04 8:49 a.m.
                 Missed?Narcogen 5/20/04 6:53 a.m.
                       Re: Missed?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/20/04 7:43 a.m.
                             Re: Missed?Narcogen 5/21/04 12:10 a.m.
                                   Re: Missed?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/21/04 6:23 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.nof 5/17/04 12:07 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Slothboy 5/17/04 1:14 p.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/17/04 1:36 p.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Slothboy 5/17/04 1:55 p.m.
           Adoption into Canon?Narcogen 5/20/04 6:59 a.m.
                 Re: Adoption into Canon?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/20/04 7:32 a.m.
                       Re: Adoption into Canon?Wado SG 5/20/04 8:12 p.m.
                             Re: Adoption into Canon?Anton P. Nym 5/20/04 9:33 p.m.
                       Canon RampancyNarcogen 5/21/04 12:00 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Target4Hire 5/17/04 2:34 p.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/18/04 10:54 p.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Target4Hire 5/20/04 11:21 a.m.
     Re: Enkidu rocked.ThorsHammer 5/17/04 3:16 p.m.
     Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.wavehawk 5/18/04 3:33 a.m.
           Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/18/04 6:04 a.m.
                 Re: Enkidu flames and kudos HERE, please.wavehawk 5/18/04 6:14 a.m.
     Steve...thought you might be amused by this...the Ouroboros 5/20/04 8:21 p.m.
           Re: Steve...thought you might be amused by this...Anton P. Nym 5/20/04 9:59 p.m.
     YOUR terminals are so much better than mine.LietLives 5/23/04 5:20 a.m.
           Re: YOUR terminals are so much better than mine.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/23/04 7:16 a.m.



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