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Re: An apology...
Posted By: Ma1agateDate: 5/19/05 10:01 a.m.

In Response To: An apology... (doctor_nightfall)

: My views may seem a little extreme, and I realise that this is NOT the right
: platform to espouse them. I apologise for cluttering the message board
: with these. In my defence for posting that here, I was still a little
: fuzzy from the painkillers I had yesterday.

: Sorry, people... but I DO believe these things, but also won't be posting
: about that in the future.

Meh. Although extreme, it was just a tangent of a Halo-related conversation. No worries. But there is a huge difference between kidnapping someone and cybernetically augmenting them and raising them to be a soldier; and enrolling someone in or requiring someone to enter today's school systems. If you consider being exposed to and educated in several different subjects based on hundreds of years of knowledge, being taught the norms of present-day society, being schooled in the use of modern technological conveniences and necessities such as the personal computer and the internet, and being given a credential upon completeion which you can use to gain more profitable employment _ALL FOR FREE_ brainwashing; you can always choose to drop out.

Nobody in the school systems is teaching you WHAT to think, only HOW to think. I don't see how that is brainwashing. And it would only make sense for someone who adheres to what they've learned in such a system to excel and be successful in a society based on all the knowledge that system provides; so I don't see how you can think it wrong or unfair that someone who doesn't enter society in the average way will be at some kind of disadvantage.

I'm just a huge, huge believer in education. I think that sufficient education in the masses can really solve a majority of the world's problems. But let me get off my soapbox.

John 117 wasn't really brainwashed. He was raised in a military environment that emphasized unit cohesion and taught tactics and strategies for engagements. He and the other Spartans were raised as soldiers. Brainwashing implies force used on the mind to erase everything before it and to inject some new way of thinking. That's not what they did with the Spartans. I'm not saying it was ethical, I'm just saying there's a difference there. They were molded into soldiers, not killers or fanatics.

~Ma1


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                                               An apology...doctor_nightfall 5/19/05 8:18 a.m.
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