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Re: *EXTREAMLY OT* But i just cant help myself.
Posted By: mercuryDate: 5/19/05 3:22 p.m.

In Response To: *EXTREAMLY OT* But i just cant help myself. (Siber)

I agree on a lot of your points, it's never going to be perfect when you judge so many different types of children with one unyeilding scale.

But honestly, it seems like there's little you can do to change the education model for children, when you have very few, underpaid teachers, and masses of children who have to be educated.

At least some of the younger children can have a corrective experience at home with their parents, where they learn what matters, values and social skills. They often grow more outside of school in other activities, where they have a better chance of being given authoritative, rather than authoritarian teaching.

Sometimes you get the right teachers too, which helps.

It's when your older, in highschool, that the system gets screwed up. As children become more independant, and more deeply involved in their school, they can't rely on anything else. Parents come second to school. "Education" becomes all important. Without it you are doomed to fail in life. You certainly can't be happy, smart, significant, or useful unless you do things the way you're taught.

College? Don't get me started on that... It feels like the older you get in school, the narrower ideologies get.

Anyway, rant over and back to the thread's topic, I think the abduction of the SPARTAN's would be incredibly unethical and unhealthy. Being stripped of that valuable experience of an authoritative, beneficial relationship with a parent figure, I'd assume the SPARTANs woould develop all sorts of emotional, mental, and ethical issues.

Maybe they weren't "modded into killers," but the trauma, and the post trauma, of being surrounded by so much death and pain at an early age, mixed with the attachment problems of being stripped from their parents, we have no clue what they could have been changed into. How would they know who their enemy is? Military structure only goes so far to tell you what side you're on. Constantly being attacked by marines, knowing that you could have had a different life, that all of this was involuntary, how could you define "enemy?"

If the SPARTAN program had been disbanded, they've created something that would most likely be impossible to reenter into society.


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