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Posted By: Train Dodger <tmesisrevenge@gmail.com>Date: 9/19/12 11:52 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Why I Hate Glasslands (Train Dodger)


: I want to be given the feeling that the world revolves around me and my ideals as I read, as
: awkward and immature as that sounds.

I suppose it would be more accurate for me to say that many Halo fans - no, many science fiction and fantasy fans - are every bit as egomaniacal and grandiose as Halsey is, and therefore sympathize with her. In other words, I don't think Karen Traviss knows her audience very well. Well, either that, or she knows exactly what we are and actively despises us for it, in which case books like Glasslands are her way of flipping us the bird, as it were.

I mean, think about it. This is a story where the whole point is to take command of a cyborg ubermensch and pummel alien brains into pudding. To feel superior. To be above it all. If Karen Traviss wanted to write a book just to tell us that we don't have a right to feel that way, then she's in the wrong line of work, because she's pandering to the sort of audience that doesn't even play Halo or read the tie-ins.


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Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/17/12 10:22 p.m.
     I agree with Williams, but I can see your points.Rice 9/17/12 10:41 p.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Battuta 9/17/12 10:42 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Battuta 9/17/12 10:44 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/17/12 11:54 p.m.
           On second thought...Train Dodger 9/18/12 6:24 p.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/17/12 10:49 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/17/12 11:24 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsChewbaccawakka 9/17/12 11:29 p.m.
                 Correction.Quirel 9/18/12 12:10 a.m.
                       Got itZackDark 9/18/12 12:26 a.m.
                       Re: Correction.Chewbaccawakka 9/18/12 1:12 a.m.
                             Re: Correction.Quirel 9/18/12 1:34 a.m.
                                   Re: Correction.Chewbaccawakka 9/18/12 1:48 a.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Battuta 9/17/12 11:32 p.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsBeckx 9/18/12 9:40 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/18/12 7:26 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/18/12 12:28 a.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsQuirel 9/18/12 12:32 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/18/12 12:49 a.m.
                       Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsQuirel 9/18/12 12:55 a.m.
                       Re: Why I Hate Glasslandsbluerunner 9/18/12 9:05 a.m.
                             Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/18/12 9:41 p.m.
           Total warFlynn J Taggart 9/18/12 12:36 a.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/17/12 11:19 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsJaydee 9/18/12 12:12 a.m.
                 On Halsey being demonized.Rice 9/18/12 12:32 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTDSpiral 9/18/12 12:33 a.m.
                       Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsHawki 9/18/12 1:49 a.m.
                             Projecting guiltscarab 9/18/12 2:44 a.m.
                                   Re: Projecting guiltJaydee 9/18/12 3:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Projecting guiltHawki 9/18/12 3:12 a.m.
                                         Re: Projecting guiltscarab 9/18/12 3:52 a.m.
                                               Re: Projecting guiltTrain Dodger 9/18/12 4:25 a.m.
                                         Re: Projecting guiltQuirel 9/18/12 9:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Projecting guiltHarmanimus 9/18/12 3:39 a.m.
                                         Re: Projecting guiltscarab 9/18/12 4:07 a.m.
                                               Re: Projecting guiltHawki 9/18/12 4:46 a.m.
                                               Re: Projecting guiltHarmanimus 9/18/12 3:00 p.m.
                                   More like projecting Quiltbryan newman 9/18/12 4:52 a.m.
                                         Re: More like projecting QuiltHawki 9/18/12 5:23 a.m.
                                               Re: More like projecting Quiltbryan newman 9/18/12 5:28 a.m.
                                                     Re: More like projecting QuiltHawki 9/18/12 5:34 a.m.
                                                           Re: More like projecting Quiltscarab 9/18/12 1:20 p.m.
                                                                 Re: More like projecting QuiltHawki 9/18/12 4:36 p.m.
     Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:09 a.m.
           Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHawki 9/18/12 2:12 a.m.
                 Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateQuirel 9/18/12 2:16 a.m.
                       Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:22 a.m.
                             Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateTrain Dodger 9/18/12 2:25 a.m.
                                   Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 3:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Best Line of the Whole Debatebluerunner 9/18/12 8:59 a.m.
                             Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHawki 9/18/12 2:28 a.m.
                                   Agree with all but the last sentence! *NM*Lurono 9/18/12 2:43 a.m.
                                   Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:48 a.m.
                                         Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateLurono 9/18/12 3:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 3:29 a.m.
                                                     Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateLurono 9/18/12 9:35 p.m.
                                               This: *NM*thebruce0 9/18/12 9:01 a.m.
                                               D'oh, attempt 2 :) This:thebruce0 9/18/12 9:06 a.m.
                 Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:18 a.m.
                       Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateTrain Dodger 9/18/12 2:40 a.m.
                       Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateLurono 9/18/12 2:55 a.m.
     Re: Why I Hate Glasslandsscarab 9/18/12 3:22 a.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/18/12 3:54 a.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsArchilen 9/18/12 3:38 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/18/12 11:45 p.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsArchilen 9/19/12 9:14 a.m.
                       Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 11:36 a.m.
                             CorollaryTrain Dodger 9/19/12 11:52 a.m.
                             Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsArchilen 9/19/12 2:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 4:07 p.m.
                                         Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/19/12 5:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 5:04 p.m.
                                         Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/19/12 7:15 p.m.
                                               Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/19/12 7:19 p.m.
                                               Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 7:56 p.m.
                                                     This is why Gameplay/Canon Segregation exists. *NM*Rice 9/19/12 11:56 p.m.
                                                           Nope.uberfoop 9/20/12 12:05 a.m.
                                                     To be fair to the UNSC...SonGoharotto 9/20/12 12:19 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsQuirel 9/20/12 1:02 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGravemind 9/20/12 2:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/20/12 6:11 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/20/12 9:32 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/20/12 11:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/20/12 8:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/20/12 9:09 p.m.
                                   Parangosky in GoO.Rice 9/25/12 4:19 a.m.
                                         AlsoRice 9/25/12 5:26 a.m.
                                               On matters of executiondavidfuchs 9/25/12 7:07 a.m.
                                                     Re: On matters of executionGeneral Battuta 9/25/12 2:46 p.m.
                                               The Halsey Jaw PunchRice 9/26/12 2:26 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Halsey Jaw PunchSubtank 9/26/12 5:06 a.m.
                             Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/19/12 7:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/19/12 7:48 p.m.
                                   Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 8:08 p.m.
     Update To Original ThreadTrain Dodger 9/18/12 9:04 p.m.
           Re: Update To Original ThreadSonGoharotto 9/19/12 3:54 p.m.
     Re: Why I Hate Glasslandsvlad3163 9/23/12 2:27 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate Glasslandsbryan newman 9/24/12 1:17 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsArchilen 9/24/12 9:04 a.m.
                       Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/24/12 3:20 p.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/24/12 3:04 p.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTsudico 10/30/12 2:22 p.m.



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