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Total war
Posted By: Flynn J TaggartDate: 9/18/12 12:36 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Why I Hate Glasslands (ZackDark)


: It's late, so I stopped reading after he clearly defended the nuclear
: bombings while refusing to compare them to the Spartan Program using the
: same reasons you did...

: In fact, I had no idea you guys thought of those as excusable. How do schools
: usually teach that part of WWII there? (No mean to disrespect or go moral
: gung-ho on you guys. I'm honestly curious now.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war

The citizenry of a country's population is considered part of the military machine when they enter a state of total war.

Japan would not have hesitated to use weapons of mass destruction on the US if given a chance and were deeply involved in researching biological and chemical weapons during World War II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Japan would not have stopped their assault if not for a show of overwhelming force and/or complete invasion of mainland Japan. A mainland invasion of Japan would have cost the US dearly in terms of lives; a nuclear bombing less so.

Nobody likes that non-combatants (women, elderly, children) were killed in the bombings; it is a great tragedy. The US did not start the war, however. The only valid argument to be made against the nuclear bombing of Japan during World War II is that Japan might have surrendered due to the way the war was heading, which is an argument that can only be had in hindsight.


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     I agree with Williams, but I can see your points.Rice 9/17/12 10:41 p.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Battuta 9/17/12 10:42 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Battuta 9/17/12 10:44 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/17/12 11:54 p.m.
           On second thought...Train Dodger 9/18/12 6:24 p.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/17/12 10:49 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/17/12 11:24 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsChewbaccawakka 9/17/12 11:29 p.m.
                 Correction.Quirel 9/18/12 12:10 a.m.
                       Got itZackDark 9/18/12 12:26 a.m.
                       Re: Correction.Chewbaccawakka 9/18/12 1:12 a.m.
                             Re: Correction.Quirel 9/18/12 1:34 a.m.
                                   Re: Correction.Chewbaccawakka 9/18/12 1:48 a.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Battuta 9/17/12 11:32 p.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsBeckx 9/18/12 9:40 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/18/12 7:26 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/18/12 12:28 a.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsQuirel 9/18/12 12:32 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/18/12 12:49 a.m.
                       Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsQuirel 9/18/12 12:55 a.m.
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                             Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/18/12 9:41 p.m.
           Total warFlynn J Taggart 9/18/12 12:36 a.m.
     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/17/12 11:19 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsJaydee 9/18/12 12:12 a.m.
                 On Halsey being demonized.Rice 9/18/12 12:32 a.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTDSpiral 9/18/12 12:33 a.m.
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                                         Re: Projecting guiltQuirel 9/18/12 9:41 a.m.
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                                         Re: Projecting guiltscarab 9/18/12 4:07 a.m.
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                                               Re: Projecting guiltHarmanimus 9/18/12 3:00 p.m.
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                                                     Re: More like projecting QuiltHawki 9/18/12 5:34 a.m.
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     Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:09 a.m.
           Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHawki 9/18/12 2:12 a.m.
                 Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateQuirel 9/18/12 2:16 a.m.
                       Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:22 a.m.
                             Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateTrain Dodger 9/18/12 2:25 a.m.
                                   Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 3:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Best Line of the Whole Debatebluerunner 9/18/12 8:59 a.m.
                             Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHawki 9/18/12 2:28 a.m.
                                   Agree with all but the last sentence! *NM*Lurono 9/18/12 2:43 a.m.
                                   Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:48 a.m.
                                         Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateLurono 9/18/12 3:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 3:29 a.m.
                                                     Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateLurono 9/18/12 9:35 p.m.
                                               This: *NM*thebruce0 9/18/12 9:01 a.m.
                                               D'oh, attempt 2 :) This:thebruce0 9/18/12 9:06 a.m.
                 Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateHoovaloov 9/18/12 2:18 a.m.
                       Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateTrain Dodger 9/18/12 2:40 a.m.
                       Re: Best Line of the Whole DebateLurono 9/18/12 2:55 a.m.
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     Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsArchilen 9/18/12 3:38 p.m.
           Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/18/12 11:45 p.m.
                 Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsArchilen 9/19/12 9:14 a.m.
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                             CorollaryTrain Dodger 9/19/12 11:52 a.m.
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                                   Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 4:07 p.m.
                                         Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsSonGoharotto 9/19/12 5:01 p.m.
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                                         Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsGeneral Vagueness 9/19/12 7:15 p.m.
                                               Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsZackDark 9/19/12 7:19 p.m.
                                               Re: Why I Hate GlasslandsTrain Dodger 9/19/12 7:56 p.m.
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                                                           Nope.uberfoop 9/20/12 12:05 a.m.
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           Re: Update To Original ThreadSonGoharotto 9/19/12 3:54 p.m.
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