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Re: Brutes in ODST
Posted By: Silent Knight <irish_bloke@hotmail.com>Date: 10/22/09 10:27 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Brutes in ODST (Vociferous)


: The three basic questions people have on this matter are: 1) Why are Brutes
: killing Elites on October 20th, when Truth doesn't change the Honor Guard
: till November 3rd (the change of the Honor Guard being the reason for the
: civil war in the first place)?

: 2) Where do the Brutes from ODST's campaign physically come from?

: 3) General questions regarding the new ships in Halo 3 (there are only 13
: Covenant battlecruisers remaining after Regret's jump, but there are far
: more ships in occupation when Halo 3 kicks off on November 17th) - who are
: they and when did they show up and, for those who've played through ODST,
: how is that reconciled with our understanding of Slipspace travel.

: Bungie's provided a good lead in the link you posted, but as you indicated,
: it doesn't answer the above questions. We'll have those answers on Halo
: Waypoint.

I have an answer for 1) but it just muddies the waters for 2). From what I've seen, everyone has been assuming the Brute/Elite killings to be race-related. The Brutes sent in may just be a clean-up op - Truth decides Regret is too powerful an asset to allow into human hands, and possibly even believes that Regret's crew were too exposed to, well, the truth. The Jackals, Grunts and Hunters would be easy to convert back to the path, so Truth orders the whacking of everyone on Regret's flying bachelor pad. The Op begins in the city outskirts, on the opposite side to the human ground attack (Chief's crew in H2) so Elites are already wiped out in certain sectors of the city.

ODSTs drop in, seconds after the Slipspace rupture, and find freshly corpsified Elites. As for why the Brutes were in charge, would you send Grunts to take out Elites? Hunters would be taken out by superior tactics, leaving Brutes the only ones (with the aid of overwhelming reinforcements) to take out the remaining Elites and get the smaller races back in line.

For that to work, you have to assume that Truth picked up Regret's 4-day signal from Mombasa and dispatched a Brute ship to take him out. There's the fuzzy part. Slipspace travel. As awesome and well laid out as it was in the Fall of Reach, Bungie's writers just didn't seem to grasp the idea. So, in the game universe, we can say that Truth had access to a magical bunny that makes travel instantaneous. And ships invisible.

In the logical (I guess we can assume it's the Waypoint method) universe, we say that a Brute Spec Ops or scouting vessel was nearby and repurposed for the clean-up operation.

That's as close as I can get to answering those without Hulking out. Did any of that make sense?


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Brutes in ODSTArchilen 10/22/09 9:21 a.m.
     Re: Brutes in ODSTVociferous 10/22/09 10:25 a.m.
           Re: Brutes in ODSTRyanTheHeretic 10/22/09 10:46 a.m.
           Re: Brutes in ODSTArchilen 10/22/09 10:50 a.m.
           Re: Brutes in ODSTAvateur 10/22/09 3:06 p.m.
                 Re: Brutes in ODSTSonofMacPhisto 10/22/09 3:23 p.m.
                       Re: Brutes in ODSTArchilen 10/23/09 1:32 a.m.
                             Re: Brutes in ODSTArchilen 10/23/09 1:45 a.m.
                             Re: Brutes in ODSTSilent Knight 10/23/09 10:08 a.m.
                                   Re: Brutes in ODSTStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/23/09 10:49 a.m.
                       Re: Brutes in ODSTmendicantbias00 10/23/09 11:44 a.m.
                 Re: Brutes in ODSTGeneral Vagueness 10/22/09 4:03 p.m.
                       Re: Brutes in ODSTAvateur 10/22/09 9:46 p.m.
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                       Re: Brutes in ODSTSilent Knight 10/23/09 12:10 a.m.
           Re: Brutes in ODSTSilent Knight 10/22/09 10:27 p.m.
                 Re: Brutes in ODSTscarab 10/22/09 11:00 p.m.
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