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Re: Feature creep
Posted By: RocksliderDate: 10/27/07 12:13 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Feature creep (wolfman)


: I can't count the
: number of times they've deployed some form of cover as I've got a grenade
: flying through the air at them, or am blasting them with the FRG.

That would be intelligent of them I grant you, but I can't say I've really noticed it much. I'll keep an eye out.

: And as for wandering out of the shield -- how often do *you* stay inside the
: shield the entire time, once deployed? I usually use it for quick relief
: from an onslaught, only to pop in and out almost immediately and continue
: fighting.

I haven't used it much, but one difference is that you've got a rechargeable shield, so the bubble can serve the purpose of letting you recharge it. Apparently the Brutes don't have such shields, in which case there's less rationale for them using a bubble at all, in most cases.

Sometimes I've repeatedly moved out and back into the bubble, just long enough to fire off a few shots or lob a grenade; I don't think I've seen Brutes doing that.

For now, I stand by my overall impression that they're not too bright about using it. It certainly never concerns me when they deploy one, at any rate. I can just wait for a bit and get ready. It's perhaps more useful to me than them!

: But "feature creep"? I guess I don't understand
: the difference between that and wishing H3 was a clone of H1 with a
: different storyline. I'm sure there are people who feel that way (and you
: seem like as good a candidate as any to be one of them), but that's not
: what the lion's share of the Halo community wants. New, interesting
: innovations in the way we can play this game are excellent, as far as I'm
: concerned.

Clone of H1 eh? A few words on that. Personally I would've been entirely happy if Bungie had continued on from H1 with practically no changes other than to fix a few bugs and improve on a few shortcomings here and there, and potentially introduce a few additional weapons and vehicles. Obviously with new levels and adventuring. But let's be clear (and this is the key point I want to make), that's not a case of stagnating or creating a 'clone'. It's simply a case of retaining a very good thing in an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" manner. I have little doubt that the series would've continued to be very popular. As popular as H2 and H3 actually were? Maybe less, maybe more as you seem to believe, who knows?

If this had happened, doubtless some critics might have complained about "no new innovations" or suchlike. But that sort of criticism is founded on the mistaken and illogical notion that in order to remain good, constant change is needed. Not only is it not needed, it brings the risk of losing the original magic. Maybe some examples of long-running TV series could be relevant here, where they altered stuff and in due course it all got a bit embarassing or 'past its prime' - not that I'm saying the Halo series has become embarassing (and not that I'm an expert in long-running TV series that lost their way, it was just an idea).

: We don't *have* to use them, as many have pointed out.

But they might still have a strong influence on things, not least in the way the developers might design the gameplay in ways that disadvantage you if you don't use them.

Bad Cyborg



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My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 9:37 a.m.
     Good read! *NM*gunluva 10/23/07 10:32 a.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3Cody Miller 10/23/07 10:44 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 12:59 p.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3 *sp*chargeorge 10/23/07 10:47 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3 *sp*Rockslider 10/23/07 2:10 p.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3 *sp*chargeorge 10/23/07 5:05 p.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3Ducain 10/23/07 10:51 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3gunluva 10/23/07 10:54 a.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3XLNC 10/23/07 11:31 a.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3Buttskunk 10/23/07 10:57 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Buttskunk 10/23/07 11:03 a.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3Cody Miller 10/23/07 11:28 a.m.
                       Re: My views on Halo 3Buttskunk 10/23/07 11:37 a.m.
                             Re: My views on Halo 3Rox 10/23/07 12:15 p.m.
                                   Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 2:17 p.m.
                                         Re: My views on Halo 3Halodiction 10/23/07 2:41 p.m.
                       Re: My views on Halo 3SquirrelOnFire 10/23/07 3:44 p.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 2:15 p.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3Leviathan 10/23/07 2:30 p.m.
                       Re: My views on Halo 3XLNC 10/23/07 4:21 p.m.
                             Re: My views on Halo 3Leviathan 10/23/07 5:21 p.m.
                             Re: My views on Halo 3wolfman 10/23/07 6:22 p.m.
                                   Re: My views on Halo 3XLNC 10/24/07 6:22 a.m.
     Halo 2 going cheapRed_Breast 10/23/07 4:12 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 going cheapRockslider 10/23/07 4:54 p.m.
           Halo 2 is already cheapchargeorge 10/23/07 6:53 p.m.
     I was waiting to see what you thought...Mister Froggy 10/23/07 5:49 p.m.
           Re: I was waiting to see what you thought...Rockslider 10/24/07 12:11 p.m.
     Agreed *NM*Fires7orm 10/23/07 7:22 p.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3P_40E 10/24/07 1:41 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/24/07 12:14 p.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3scarab 10/24/07 2:52 p.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Narcogen 10/25/07 9:11 a.m.
     What about the Brute shot then?Rockslider 10/24/07 12:17 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?Captain Spark 10/24/07 2:08 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?scarab 10/24/07 3:05 p.m.
                 Feature creepRockslider 10/25/07 7:44 a.m.
                       Re: Feature creepNarcogen 10/25/07 9:30 a.m.
                             Against the enemy...Louis Wu 10/25/07 10:42 a.m.
                                   Re: Against the enemy...Narcogen 10/25/07 9:10 p.m.
                       Re: Feature creepwolfman 10/26/07 11:04 a.m.
                             Re: Feature creepscarab 10/26/07 11:27 a.m.
                                   Re: Feature creepwolfman 10/26/07 12:01 p.m.
                             Re: Feature creepRockslider 10/27/07 12:13 p.m.
                                   Re: Feature creepwolfman 10/29/07 12:07 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?SinisterSamurai 10/24/07 3:13 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?Narcogen 10/25/07 9:15 a.m.
     Halo 1, then 3....then....umm...errr...DavidLG1971 10/24/07 2:41 p.m.
     Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Rockslider 10/25/07 7:46 a.m.
           Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Narcogen 10/25/07 9:36 a.m.
           Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Captain Spark 10/25/07 11:08 a.m.
                 Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*The Cancers 10/25/07 1:35 p.m.
                 Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*scarab 10/25/07 4:43 p.m.
                       Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Captain Spark 10/25/07 5:13 p.m.
           Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*scarab 10/26/07 1:21 a.m.
     Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/25/07 12:29 p.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersThe Cancers 10/25/07 12:34 p.m.
                 Solution.Phoenix_9286 10/25/07 12:52 p.m.
                       Re: Solution.Rockslider 10/25/07 5:33 p.m.
                             Re: Solution.The Cancers 10/25/07 5:42 p.m.
                       Jackal down, we have Jackal down...Rockslider 10/26/07 12:30 p.m.
                             Re: Jackal down, we have Jackal down...Louis Wu 10/26/07 12:42 p.m.
                             Re: Jackal down, we have Jackal down...Phoenix_9286 10/26/07 12:44 p.m.
                             Re: Jackal down, we have Jackal down...wolfman 10/26/07 1:16 p.m.
           No *NM*MasterChief2829 10/25/07 12:36 p.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by sniperswolfman 10/25/07 12:40 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/25/07 5:35 p.m.
                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by sniperswolfman 10/26/07 10:46 a.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/25/07 12:41 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/25/07 12:43 p.m.
                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by sniperswolfman 10/25/07 12:44 p.m.
                       damned grunt ghosts!The Cancers 10/25/07 12:51 p.m.
                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersCthulhu117 10/25/07 4:15 p.m.
                             Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/25/07 4:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersThe Cancers 10/25/07 4:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/25/07 4:48 p.m.
                                               Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/26/07 6:59 a.m.
                                                     Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/26/07 11:33 a.m.
                                                           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/26/07 12:47 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/27/07 11:32 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/27/07 1:22 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/28/07 6:15 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/28/07 12:47 p.m.
                                                           Maulers aren't really cake mixKamandren 10/27/07 2:52 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Maulers aren't really cake mixKamandren 10/27/07 2:55 a.m.
                                   Grunts' methane biologyscarab 10/25/07 5:08 p.m.
           Are we done fault-finding yet? *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/25/07 12:49 p.m.
                 Steve's a dreamer, isn't he? *NM*wolfman 10/25/07 12:58 p.m.
           Wow, just...wow.Phlux 10/25/07 1:35 p.m.
                 Re: Wow, just...wow.BirDMaN 10/25/07 2:06 p.m.
                       Re: Wow, just...wow.Phoenix_9286 10/25/07 2:53 p.m.
                 Re: Wow, just...wow.Ross Mills 10/25/07 2:49 p.m.
                       Re: Wow, just...wow.Phoenix_9286 10/25/07 2:59 p.m.
                             Bingo. *NM*Louis Wu 10/25/07 3:09 p.m.
                             Agreed *NM*gunluva 10/25/07 3:10 p.m.
                                   Seconded. Er.. Thirded. *NM*Dustysquareback 10/25/07 3:18 p.m.
                             Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HaloRoss Mills 10/25/07 3:45 p.m.
                                   Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HDojorkan 10/25/07 3:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HRoss Mills 10/26/07 9:51 p.m.
                                               Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HEndbringer 10/26/07 11:32 p.m.
                                                     Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HRoss Mills 10/27/07 6:06 a.m.
                                                           Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HEndbringer 10/27/07 1:00 p.m.
                                                     Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HRockslider 10/27/07 12:05 p.m.
                                                           Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HEndbringer 10/27/07 12:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HLouis Wu 10/25/07 4:04 p.m.
                                   I actually enjoyed them!scarab 10/25/07 5:13 p.m.
                 Wahhhh. Halo3 isnt a exact replica of Halo1 in HD. *NM*Dojorkan 10/25/07 4:08 p.m.
                       Amen to that.Cthulhu117 10/25/07 4:28 p.m.
                 Crikey... touched a nerveRockslider 10/25/07 5:38 p.m.
                       Re: Crikey... touched a nervePhlux 10/25/07 7:05 p.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersCody Miller 10/25/07 2:19 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRagashingo 10/25/07 3:03 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/25/07 5:43 p.m.
           Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.Captain Spark 10/25/07 4:24 p.m.
                 Re: Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.The Cancers 10/25/07 4:43 p.m.
                 works everywhereMiguel Chavez 10/25/07 10:00 p.m.
                       Re: works everywhereCaptain Spark 10/25/07 11:06 p.m.
                             Re: works everywhereRockslider 10/26/07 2:48 p.m.
                                   Re: works everywhereCaptain Spark 10/26/07 3:53 p.m.
                 Re: Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.Warbow 10/26/07 8:18 a.m.
                       Re: Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.Captain Spark 10/26/07 10:07 a.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersNarcogen 10/25/07 8:54 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/26/07 1:56 a.m.
                       Not noticing stuffRockslider 10/26/07 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/26/07 2:54 p.m.
                 Third methodRockslider 10/26/07 7:18 p.m.
                       Re: Third methodmr2noshoes 10/26/07 11:05 p.m.
                             Re: Third methodPhoenix_9286 10/27/07 12:45 a.m.
                             Re: Third methodRockslider 10/27/07 11:57 a.m.
                                   Re: Third methodRox 10/27/07 3:26 p.m.
                                   Re: Third methodmr2noshoes 10/27/07 9:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Third methodRockslider 10/28/07 8:27 a.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersSir J3lunt 10/26/07 1:11 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/26/07 5:26 p.m.
     Hmp. Bunch a crybabies. *NM*Dustysquareback 10/25/07 1:37 p.m.



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