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Halo 1, then 3....then....umm...errr...
Posted By: DavidLG1971 <dglenister1@yahoo.com>Date: 10/24/07 2:41 p.m.

In Response To: My views on Halo 3 (Rockslider)


Rockslider, it's uncanny - your views on all 3 games match mine almost perfectly. I'm an infrequent poster here, but a longtime Halo nut - like since 1999-2000. I still remember me and my officemates drooling over the initial videos, counting days.

When we finally got an Xbox, my two daughters and I played Halo for a long time - just campaign. It has soooo much replay value. In fact, we *still* play it. We love to grab Banshees on AOTCR and taunt the Gold Elite on the 1st bridge. I even made a film of it. He's hilarious- so much gusto, character.

Halo had so much...depth - characters, animations, environments, varied battles. And for large stretches, it's somewhat nonlinear - it's up to you to decide where and how to proceed. Wanna explore the beautiful, expansive environs of Silent Cartographer or AOTCR? Go ahead - the baddies will be waiting.

We were hyped for H2 like everyone else, especially after the E3 New Mombassa film. But ultimately disappointed. I was shocked to learn much later that they dropped all development up to that point and started over, but it really feels...off?...in the campaign - environments, weapon "feel", immersion, vehicle handling, etc.

The bottom line, for me, is that the level design and the graphics / physics engine in Halo 1 are vastly superior. Not perfect - the later levels get repetitive, and there are other faults. But by comparison, after playing through H2 once or twice, there was little to draw us back. And I've played it just a few times in the last 2 years.

So I was wary of Halo 3. But we eventually caved and bought a 360. And my opinion is like yours, though I have fewer qualms at this stage. (I've only played it about 15 hours so far.)

But they went back to large environments where you could roam around, try different strategies, and for that I'm at least happy. I spent 2 hours exploring the Covenant level on foot - great fun! The graphics are top-notch too. My only real regret, besides the invisible walls, is that the guns and melee animations still feel like Halo 2. However I do like a lot of the new stuff, like the Chopper, the Spiker, and the Grav hammer! And the water effects are amazing.

Most of my Halo over the past 4 years has been PC. In fact I manage a modded Halo PC server, and playing that game - even with its problematic netcode - is a great experience, especially at higher resolutions. Halo 1 looks breathtaking at 1280 x 1024, and it has all the best maps - Hang 'Em, Damnation, Danger Canyon, Sidewinder, etc.

So...what I really want is for someone to update Halo 1 for the 360. High definition Halo...now that would be a dream. And they could add in Xbox Live to make it more than a pure eye candy upgrade. If that happened, I might even go in for Xbox Live!


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My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 9:37 a.m.
     Good read! *NM*gunluva 10/23/07 10:32 a.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3Cody Miller 10/23/07 10:44 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 12:59 p.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3 *sp*chargeorge 10/23/07 10:47 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3 *sp*Rockslider 10/23/07 2:10 p.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3 *sp*chargeorge 10/23/07 5:05 p.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3Ducain 10/23/07 10:51 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3gunluva 10/23/07 10:54 a.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3XLNC 10/23/07 11:31 a.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3Buttskunk 10/23/07 10:57 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Buttskunk 10/23/07 11:03 a.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3Cody Miller 10/23/07 11:28 a.m.
                       Re: My views on Halo 3Buttskunk 10/23/07 11:37 a.m.
                             Re: My views on Halo 3Rox 10/23/07 12:15 p.m.
                                   Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 2:17 p.m.
                                         Re: My views on Halo 3Halodiction 10/23/07 2:41 p.m.
                       Re: My views on Halo 3SquirrelOnFire 10/23/07 3:44 p.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/23/07 2:15 p.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3Leviathan 10/23/07 2:30 p.m.
                       Re: My views on Halo 3XLNC 10/23/07 4:21 p.m.
                             Re: My views on Halo 3Leviathan 10/23/07 5:21 p.m.
                             Re: My views on Halo 3wolfman 10/23/07 6:22 p.m.
                                   Re: My views on Halo 3XLNC 10/24/07 6:22 a.m.
     Halo 2 going cheapRed_Breast 10/23/07 4:12 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 going cheapRockslider 10/23/07 4:54 p.m.
           Halo 2 is already cheapchargeorge 10/23/07 6:53 p.m.
     I was waiting to see what you thought...Mister Froggy 10/23/07 5:49 p.m.
           Re: I was waiting to see what you thought...Rockslider 10/24/07 12:11 p.m.
     Agreed *NM*Fires7orm 10/23/07 7:22 p.m.
     Re: My views on Halo 3P_40E 10/24/07 1:41 a.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Rockslider 10/24/07 12:14 p.m.
                 Re: My views on Halo 3scarab 10/24/07 2:52 p.m.
           Re: My views on Halo 3Narcogen 10/25/07 9:11 a.m.
     What about the Brute shot then?Rockslider 10/24/07 12:17 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?Captain Spark 10/24/07 2:08 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?scarab 10/24/07 3:05 p.m.
                 Feature creepRockslider 10/25/07 7:44 a.m.
                       Re: Feature creepNarcogen 10/25/07 9:30 a.m.
                             Against the enemy...Louis Wu 10/25/07 10:42 a.m.
                                   Re: Against the enemy...Narcogen 10/25/07 9:10 p.m.
                       Re: Feature creepwolfman 10/26/07 11:04 a.m.
                             Re: Feature creepscarab 10/26/07 11:27 a.m.
                                   Re: Feature creepwolfman 10/26/07 12:01 p.m.
                             Re: Feature creepRockslider 10/27/07 12:13 p.m.
                                   Re: Feature creepwolfman 10/29/07 12:07 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?SinisterSamurai 10/24/07 3:13 p.m.
           Re: What about the Brute shot then?Narcogen 10/25/07 9:15 a.m.
     Halo 1, then 3....then....umm...errr...DavidLG1971 10/24/07 2:41 p.m.
     Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Rockslider 10/25/07 7:46 a.m.
           Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Narcogen 10/25/07 9:36 a.m.
           Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Captain Spark 10/25/07 11:08 a.m.
                 Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*The Cancers 10/25/07 1:35 p.m.
                 Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*scarab 10/25/07 4:43 p.m.
                       Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*Captain Spark 10/25/07 5:13 p.m.
           Re: Dumbass boss battle? *sp*scarab 10/26/07 1:21 a.m.
     Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/25/07 12:29 p.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersThe Cancers 10/25/07 12:34 p.m.
                 Solution.Phoenix_9286 10/25/07 12:52 p.m.
                       Re: Solution.Rockslider 10/25/07 5:33 p.m.
                             Re: Solution.The Cancers 10/25/07 5:42 p.m.
                       Jackal down, we have Jackal down...Rockslider 10/26/07 12:30 p.m.
                             Re: Jackal down, we have Jackal down...Louis Wu 10/26/07 12:42 p.m.
                             Re: Jackal down, we have Jackal down...Phoenix_9286 10/26/07 12:44 p.m.
                             Re: Jackal down, we have Jackal down...wolfman 10/26/07 1:16 p.m.
           No *NM*MasterChief2829 10/25/07 12:36 p.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by sniperswolfman 10/25/07 12:40 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/25/07 5:35 p.m.
                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by sniperswolfman 10/26/07 10:46 a.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/25/07 12:41 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/25/07 12:43 p.m.
                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by sniperswolfman 10/25/07 12:44 p.m.
                       damned grunt ghosts!The Cancers 10/25/07 12:51 p.m.
                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersCthulhu117 10/25/07 4:15 p.m.
                             Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/25/07 4:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersThe Cancers 10/25/07 4:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/25/07 4:48 p.m.
                                               Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersangrymob 10/26/07 6:59 a.m.
                                                     Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/26/07 11:33 a.m.
                                                           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/26/07 12:47 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/27/07 11:32 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/27/07 1:22 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/28/07 6:15 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersPhoenix_9286 10/28/07 12:47 p.m.
                                                           Maulers aren't really cake mixKamandren 10/27/07 2:52 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Maulers aren't really cake mixKamandren 10/27/07 2:55 a.m.
                                   Grunts' methane biologyscarab 10/25/07 5:08 p.m.
           Are we done fault-finding yet? *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/25/07 12:49 p.m.
                 Steve's a dreamer, isn't he? *NM*wolfman 10/25/07 12:58 p.m.
           Wow, just...wow.Phlux 10/25/07 1:35 p.m.
                 Re: Wow, just...wow.BirDMaN 10/25/07 2:06 p.m.
                       Re: Wow, just...wow.Phoenix_9286 10/25/07 2:53 p.m.
                 Re: Wow, just...wow.Ross Mills 10/25/07 2:49 p.m.
                       Re: Wow, just...wow.Phoenix_9286 10/25/07 2:59 p.m.
                             Bingo. *NM*Louis Wu 10/25/07 3:09 p.m.
                             Agreed *NM*gunluva 10/25/07 3:10 p.m.
                                   Seconded. Er.. Thirded. *NM*Dustysquareback 10/25/07 3:18 p.m.
                             Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HaloRoss Mills 10/25/07 3:45 p.m.
                                   Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HDojorkan 10/25/07 3:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HRoss Mills 10/26/07 9:51 p.m.
                                               Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HEndbringer 10/26/07 11:32 p.m.
                                                     Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HRoss Mills 10/27/07 6:06 a.m.
                                                           Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HEndbringer 10/27/07 1:00 p.m.
                                                     Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HRockslider 10/27/07 12:05 p.m.
                                                           Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HEndbringer 10/27/07 12:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Realistic is not fun. Hell, realistic is not HLouis Wu 10/25/07 4:04 p.m.
                                   I actually enjoyed them!scarab 10/25/07 5:13 p.m.
                 Wahhhh. Halo3 isnt a exact replica of Halo1 in HD. *NM*Dojorkan 10/25/07 4:08 p.m.
                       Amen to that.Cthulhu117 10/25/07 4:28 p.m.
                 Crikey... touched a nerveRockslider 10/25/07 5:38 p.m.
                       Re: Crikey... touched a nervePhlux 10/25/07 7:05 p.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersCody Miller 10/25/07 2:19 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRagashingo 10/25/07 3:03 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/25/07 5:43 p.m.
           Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.Captain Spark 10/25/07 4:24 p.m.
                 Re: Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.The Cancers 10/25/07 4:43 p.m.
                 works everywhereMiguel Chavez 10/25/07 10:00 p.m.
                       Re: works everywhereCaptain Spark 10/25/07 11:06 p.m.
                             Re: works everywhereRockslider 10/26/07 2:48 p.m.
                                   Re: works everywhereCaptain Spark 10/26/07 3:53 p.m.
                 Re: Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.Warbow 10/26/07 8:18 a.m.
                       Re: Here is a BR trick to hit the snipers.Captain Spark 10/26/07 10:07 a.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersNarcogen 10/25/07 8:54 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersscarab 10/26/07 1:56 a.m.
                       Not noticing stuffRockslider 10/26/07 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/26/07 2:54 p.m.
                 Third methodRockslider 10/26/07 7:18 p.m.
                       Re: Third methodmr2noshoes 10/26/07 11:05 p.m.
                             Re: Third methodPhoenix_9286 10/27/07 12:45 a.m.
                             Re: Third methodRockslider 10/27/07 11:57 a.m.
                                   Re: Third methodRox 10/27/07 3:26 p.m.
                                   Re: Third methodmr2noshoes 10/27/07 9:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Third methodRockslider 10/28/07 8:27 a.m.
           Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersSir J3lunt 10/26/07 1:11 p.m.
                 Re: Sierra 117 ruined by snipersRockslider 10/26/07 5:26 p.m.
     Hmp. Bunch a crybabies. *NM*Dustysquareback 10/25/07 1:37 p.m.



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