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Re: On the RTS
Posted By: Hawaiian Pig <hawaiiangpig@gmail.com>Date: 9/28/06 3:49 a.m.

In Response To: Re: On the RTS (Bry)

: I would say storytelling peaks in the RPG, but that's because it is generally
: the main driving force for the game. Something like Xenogears is a
: masterpiece.
: The FPS is up there in potential though. Though it can lack in detail and is
: limited to what kind of a story it can tell.

RPG completly slipped my mind, and honestly I'd prefer a Halo RPG than RTS :/

: You know, excluding Generals, the C&C series for me has always been pretty
: damn good in its story telling. At least given when the original and Red
: Alert were made. So the story was pretty much all FMV/CG between missions,
: with the occasional mid-mission update but that was great for its time.
: And as long as people don't mind cinematics (I love them) they were great.

: OK, so maybe that's completely useless if you have to hear the story as a
: character in the universe through their eyes. In that case, you simply
: have no option other than a FPS.
: Even more so if you don't like cinematics. Then you don't really leave
: yourself with a whole lot of options.

Not necessarily from the character's eyes, but centering around a few at least. Character development is key to a good story.

: I guess what it comes down to is that its not actually all that hard to make
: a game all that authentic. There are lots of Star Wars games out there
: that manage this in whole hosts of different game engines and genres. From
: X-Wing Alliance (excellent story telling and character development in
: that, and it was a starfighter-sim) to Galactic Battlegrounds or Republic
: Commando. Play any of them, you know you're playing a Star Wars game and
: it feels like it.

: Get the characters right, the locations, the atmosphere and the music right.
: Then the feel can be recreated.
: Mario Kart was a complete departure for a Mario game, but it still felt
: distinctly Mario. And now its by far the most successful Mario spin-off
: and an eagerly awaited title in its own right.

And the key demographic for Mario Kart surely was very intersted in the highly consistent Mario universe. ;)

: I have faith in the developers that Halo can cross genres more smoothly then
: most.
: And I am also confident that the RTS platform can be a great means of telling
: a story.. so long as the players are willing to accept that story in a
: different format.

I have no doubts that this developer can make a "fun" game. As for getting any amazing story telling out of it, I think this baby will fall short.

Let's hope Peter Jackson has something great up his sleeve.

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Replies:

Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 12:37 a.m.
     Re: Back up a second...iDeNoh 9/28/06 12:55 a.m.
     Re: Back up a second...Xmoose 9/28/06 1:08 a.m.
           Re: Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 1:23 a.m.
                 Re: Back up a second...sorahn 9/28/06 1:41 a.m.
                       Re: Back up a second...Cocopjojo 9/28/06 1:45 a.m.
                             Re: Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 1:52 a.m.
                                   Re: Back up a second...Bry 9/28/06 2:11 a.m.
                                         Re: Back up a second...Cocopjojo 9/28/06 2:25 a.m.
                                               Re: Back up a second...Slith 9/28/06 3:02 a.m.
                                                     Re: Back up a second...HipboyScott 9/28/06 11:20 a.m.
                                                           Re: Back up a second...Slith 9/28/06 4:12 p.m.
                                               Re: Back up a second...Bry 9/28/06 3:07 a.m.
                                   Re: Back up a second...Slith 9/28/06 2:55 a.m.
                                         Re: Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 3:11 a.m.
                                               Re: Back up a second...Narcogen 9/28/06 11:22 p.m.
                                                     My concerns excatly *NM*Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 11:33 p.m.
                                                     Re: Back up a second...Bry 9/29/06 2:17 a.m.
                                                           Re: Back up a second...Narcogen 9/29/06 4:43 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Back up a second...Bry 9/29/06 6:06 a.m.
                                                                       EnhancedNarcogen 9/29/06 7:17 a.m.
                                                                             Re: EnhancedBry 9/29/06 9:41 a.m.
                                                                             Re: EnhancedPeptuck 9/29/06 10:09 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: EnhancedNarcogen 9/29/06 10:34 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: EnhancedBry 9/29/06 11:06 a.m.
                                                     Re: Back up a second...Document 9/29/06 1:07 p.m.
                                                           Re: Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/29/06 1:11 p.m.
                       Re: Back up a second...Narcogen 9/28/06 4:55 a.m.
     On the RTSHawaiian Pig 9/28/06 3:08 a.m.
           Re: On the RTSBry 9/28/06 3:44 a.m.
                 Re: On the RTSHawaiian Pig 9/28/06 3:49 a.m.
                 Re: On the RTSCupiD-082 9/28/06 1:14 p.m.
           Re: On the RTSAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/28/06 11:21 a.m.
           Re: On the RTSHipboyScott 9/28/06 11:43 a.m.
     Re: Back up a second...DHalo 9/28/06 5:32 a.m.
     Re: Back up a second...Peptuck 9/28/06 7:48 a.m.
           Re: Back up a second...Slith 9/28/06 4:27 p.m.
                 Re: Back up a second...raptor117 9/28/06 5:27 p.m.
                 Re: Back up a second...Document 9/28/06 7:27 p.m.
     I'm with the pig...Ducain 9/28/06 8:00 a.m.
     Re: Back up a second...Mister Froggy 9/28/06 9:06 a.m.
           Re: Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 6:38 p.m.
                 Re: Back up a second...Mister Froggy 9/28/06 8:11 p.m.
                       Something I forgot to add...Mister Froggy 9/28/06 9:29 p.m.
                       Re: Back up a second...Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 9:30 p.m.
     Re: Back up a second...Boxer 9/28/06 9:22 a.m.
     Re: Back up a second...Cody Miller 9/28/06 10:21 a.m.
           Re: Back up a second...Peptuck 9/28/06 12:10 p.m.
                 Re: Back up a second...Slith 9/28/06 4:30 p.m.
                       Re: On story.Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 6:31 p.m.
                             Re: On story.Peptuck 9/28/06 10:17 p.m.
     Move up a second....dolbex 9/28/06 10:44 a.m.
           My 1 centClefton Twain 9/28/06 12:27 p.m.
           Re: Move up and right back again :PHawaiian Pig 9/28/06 6:27 p.m.
                 Re: Move up and right back again :Pdolbex 9/29/06 8:54 p.m.
     Re: Back up a second...BattleMaster2552 9/28/06 11:53 a.m.
           Re: Back up a second...Slith 9/28/06 5:01 p.m.
     Summation?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/06 11:31 p.m.
           Re: Summation?mnemesis 9/29/06 1:52 a.m.
                 Re: Summation?Narcogen 9/29/06 4:26 a.m.
           Re: Summation?Sep7imus [subnova] 9/29/06 7:57 p.m.
     back up a second...frobie 9/29/06 10:35 p.m.



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