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Weapons *rant* *long*
Posted By: SPARTAN-01110101 <spartan_01110101@yahoo.com>Date: 2/4/05 3:49 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedent (Th3-Re4p3r)

I wholeheartedly agree with you about the weapons. I really can't stand the SMG (due to its complete lack of accuracy), but that's what the default weapon is. In Multiplayer, the SMG is the only weapon available much of the time, and it’s more about whether or not you're dual-wielding than your skill. In Campaign, where there are many weapons of almost every variety (including grenades), the SMG is almost entirely useless when compared to the other weapons. For example, take Cody Miller's SMG Love. Not to put down Mr. Miller, but it looks more like grenade love to me.

Why? Because the SMG should not be a primary weapon, and it can't very well be used as such, even by someone who is certainly one of the more skilled Campaign players. It is a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon), not a rifle. Useful at close range only, PDWs are issued to vehicle crews and the like; those who can't easily carry a rifle. Of course, I don’t know of any real-life PDW that is anywhere near as inaccurate as the SMG.

Because the SMG is the primary weapon in Halo 2 and accurate weapons are so scarce, games are now about who is most quickly able to grab the weapons that are actually worth using at ranges greater than 5 meters. Weapons like the Battle Rifle, Covenant Carbine, Sniper Rifle, Beam Rifle, and Rocket Launcher. The Plasma Sword is also sought-after, but only because it is a one-hit-kill weapon, and there’s only of them on each map.

I hate the Plasma Sword, and I initially hated Sword matches with a passion. After a while playing Live, however, I began to like them. Why? Because everyone starts on an even playing field. Grenades are the only other weapons, and they're often not enough to turn the tide of a battle. When I get beaten at Sword matches, I'm not annoyed like I am when I lose at "real" matches with normal weapons. It’s possible that this is simply the only type of game that I can’t convince myself I lost because of the Plasma Sword or Rocket Launcher, but I don’t think so.

Bungie has stated that one of the reasons for not being able to choose which map and gametype you play is so that people won't always play the same game, and therefore won't obliterate everyone who actually plays different games once in a while. Instead, they have people who specialize in the Plasma Sword and Rocket Launcher. They memorize where they are on every map, and how to most effectively slaughter people when using them. At least with the M6D from Halo you have to be consistently accurate. With the Sword and Rocket Launcher, you don't.

Thank you for your time.

: If they had used the traditional OptiMatch system, I think it would have
: worked out better. Sure maps would be overplayed, now that I've played
: most of the maps I can truly say I would not play only one map:
: Foundation. Whoever thought that 2 rocket launchers was a good idea was
: wrong, especially when one team has both. I love the party system, it
: makes everything easier. The problem with H2 is the skill curve is so
: small. It's all about who has the better guns now. That, I think takes the
: fun factor out of it significantly. I get really irritated when I die
: because I don't have 2 SMGs, and then I lose rank to lower level players
: because they dual wield more than I do. The matchmaking system makes me
: more frustrated than I have ever been at a videogame. I shout and curse as
: much as the rest of you during LAN parties, but God, Halo 2 is annoying.

Future makers of the Halo 2 Battle Rifle and SMG



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Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentnof 2/4/05 3:30 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentKP 2/4/05 3:44 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentIronSight 2/5/05 6:22 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentaltodarknight 2/4/05 3:48 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentBoothby 2/4/05 6:58 a.m.
     I agree. Who's for invisible ranking? *NM*17 2/4/05 8:00 a.m.
           Seconded... *NM*Vorpal Sword 2/4/05 8:17 a.m.
                 Thirded! *NM*awesome o 2/4/05 10:26 a.m.
                       Fourthed! *NM*Echoes 2/4/05 11:45 a.m.
                             Fifthed! *NM*Corgana 2/4/05 12:10 p.m.
                                   Sixthed? o_O *NM*Slayd 2/4/05 12:26 p.m.
                                         Re: Sixthed? o_OFire 2/4/05 1:37 p.m.
                                               Friggin' eighthed. *NM*Calvin Chaos 2/4/05 2:45 p.m.
                                                     Two hundred and fifty fourthed. *NM*Zig-Zag 2/4/05 3:12 p.m.
                                                           Re: Whatever numberthed YAY! *NM*saint.duo 2/5/05 12:37 a.m.
           Flaw with invisible rankAdmiral Death 2/4/05 12:53 p.m.
                 Re: Flaw with invisible rankBoothby 2/4/05 1:15 p.m.
                 Re: Flaw with invisible rankTychoVII 2/4/05 5:10 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentCaptain Spark 2/4/05 8:36 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentZytz 2/4/05 8:53 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentToney V. 2/4/05 2:07 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentSep7imus [subnova] 2/4/05 9:19 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentPJ 2/4/05 10:06 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/4/05 10:21 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentTwelve Large 2/8/05 5:29 p.m.
     Re: Extremely well said.Dan Chosich 2/4/05 9:30 a.m.
           I have a solution for two things...Papa FoOdNiPpLe 2/4/05 9:51 a.m.
                 I disagreeN1NJ4 2/4/05 10:21 a.m.
                       Re: I disagreeCount Zero 2/4/05 10:54 a.m.
                       Very good pointRed Loser 2/4/05 4:15 p.m.
           Re: Extremely well said.Count Zero 2/4/05 10:42 a.m.
                 Re: Extremely well said.Sep7imus [subnova] 2/4/05 10:55 a.m.
     Amen. *NM*Vidd 2/4/05 9:31 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentDucain 2/4/05 9:53 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentSep7imus [subnova] 2/4/05 9:59 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentAgony 2/4/05 9:59 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentBoothby 2/4/05 10:08 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentSep7imus [subnova] 2/4/05 10:32 a.m.
                       Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentBoothby 2/4/05 10:44 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentgregnnn 2/4/05 10:16 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentTh3-Re4p3r 2/4/05 10:32 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentSep7imus [subnova] 2/4/05 10:37 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentZytz 2/4/05 11:28 a.m.
                       Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentAdmiral Death 2/4/05 12:47 p.m.
                             Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentZytz 2/4/05 1:04 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/4/05 11:31 a.m.
                 Weapons *rant* *long*SPARTAN-01110101 2/4/05 3:49 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentCount Zero 2/4/05 10:57 a.m.
           Well said! *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/4/05 11:36 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentShooty Guy 2/4/05 10:39 a.m.
           Re: typos and mistakes :PShooty Guy 2/4/05 10:46 a.m.
     Bravo!Clefton Twain 2/4/05 10:45 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentGrey Wolf 2/4/05 11:02 a.m.
     Gah, so true, for me and my habits *NM*Jamirus99 2/4/05 12:53 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentZombone 2/4/05 2:02 p.m.
     Quoth the Wu (frontpage'd)gspawn 2/4/05 2:04 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentSurrealPanic 2/4/05 2:19 p.m.
     Amen!mrsmiley 2/4/05 2:30 p.m.
           Re: Amen!KP 2/4/05 2:48 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentst_riot 2/4/05 3:31 p.m.
     training groundsFlashman 2/4/05 5:12 p.m.
           Re: Relax a little, have fun.Mantis819 2/4/05 6:23 p.m.
     Well said, sir! *NM*Epyon 2/4/05 5:31 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentXvArchonvX 2/4/05 11:26 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentIronSight 2/5/05 6:52 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentPhilippe 2/6/05 3:01 p.m.
     Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentMrPeters 2/8/05 4:08 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentONI_operative_343 2/8/05 4:10 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentAeroJonesy 2/8/05 4:27 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedent17 2/8/05 5:41 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentAeroJonesy 2/8/05 6:14 p.m.
           Re: Halo 2 Matchmaking: Setting a precedentDundre 2/8/05 6:03 p.m.
     Why don't you join a Halo league?Twelve Large 2/8/05 5:02 p.m.



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