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Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*
Posted By: Ain Soph AurDate: 8/11/06 4:20 a.m.

In Response To: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers* (Cody Miller)

: Bungie has always been a great storyteller, but lately I'm getting worried
: about their ability.

: I purchased the Halo graphic novel, in the hopes that I would be shown new
: angles in the Halo universe, and unravel a few story mysteries. This was
: indeed what the graphic novel was promised as: an effort to flesh out some
: of the story elements that remained untold through Halo and Halo 2.
: Unfortunately, I think that mark was missed in a big way, and for the
: first time, I feel I did not get my money's worth out of a Bungie
: creation.

: "Last Voyage of the Infinite Succor" notwithstanding, for it came
: closest to the promise, what was presented did not shed much light onto
: the Halo world, or offered irrelevant (now anyways) information about
: completely new characters for whom I had no conection. There is a lack of
: dialouge throughout most of the novel, instead relying on the action to
: intrest us. The problem, is that dialouge drives the plot, not action. We
: end with very little plot.

: The most publicized story was Johnson's escape from the flood. This turned
: out to be the most dissapointing, and with no words uttered, Johnson
: simply walks to the top of 343 GS just as the Master Chief did. There was
: no story here at all. He killed a few flood, but we are essentialy shown,
: that his escape was nothing more than an escape. Nothing I did not already
: know.

: "Armor testing" shows us a completely irrelevant glimpse at the
: testing of Master Cheif's new armor. If anything, it is merely a vehicle
: to introduce us to a new spartan, completely unfamiliar to us. I don't
: know why she's important, or how she fits into the universe. I presume
: that the Halo comic series will tell us this.

: The same applies to "2nd sunrise over new mombassa". Nothing that
: was revealed was new information, stemming mostly from the books, however
: it was personalized. The exception being he audio recording, which does
: seem to be intruiging enough to follow. However, shortly after it is
: introduced, it is given away, and we do not follow up on it as the novel
: simply ends.

: What the graphic novel gave me was the start of 3 stories. I bought a book,
: with the first 15 pages written. Why was I sold an incomplete story?
: Presumably, because the comic series will fill the gaps. This is rather
: upsetting to me, but seems to be following a new trend.

: Stretching the stories out over multiple games and movies seems to be common
: now. The Matrix is an example of this, as is Pirate of the Carribean. In
: the latter, obvious resolutions were postponed, so that the story could be
: stretched out to 2 films, when I should have been told as one. Halo 2
: suffered from this, with a cliffhanger ending, after a story which seemed
: to me stretched to fill a game.

: Halo 2 was money well spent, because the entertainment value resided beyond
: the story. The game was fun. However, I spent half as much money, on an
: item being toted as purely story, only to find the beginnings, with the
: ends dangling off in some future purchase.

: How many comics will I have to buy to finish the stories that were started?

The comic series appears to be intended to be continuous for awhile, but I'm hoping it can accomplish more than just finishing up what the HGN started. I have my doubts, though.

I only saw the HGN today. I walked into the local Hastings and found it, and started to scan through it. Before I knew it, I had finished the whole thing. I thought "Wow, that was fast." Then I turned it over and saw the price tag. It took me all of 2 seconds to put it back on the shelf and walk away.

There was some good eye candy, but like you said, the stories are only fragments, and nowhere near as rewarding as novels. "Last Voyage" was the best one - not only do we get some background on the SpecOps commander, but we see a little bit of what happens behind the scenes within the Covenant (Spec Ops assaulting the Legate has some implications). Though I could swear I saw human Assault Rifles being carried by the Grunts. However, it still wasn't a complete story.

When I got done with the part about Johnson's escape from the Flood, my reaction was "That's it? You've gotta be shitting me!". It had some good drawings (probably the best in the book), but there was no meat to it at all. It was a replay of 343 Guilty Spark with a different protagonist. Pointless.

The one about New Mombasa got me hooked in the beginning. The ending was more of a blue-baller than Halo 2's, though. That had a lot of potential, and instead it amounted to nothing but the first 3 minutes of a 2-hour movie being sold as the complete picture.

"Armor Testing" just seemed stupid to me. There's no way there could still be "Reserves" when times are so desperate. That a combat-capable Spartan could be "retired" makes no sense at all, especially when Spartan training and attitudes are considered (Also makes me think of "Conversations from the Universe", Cortana and the other AI talked about Spartans but didn't mention this). This seems to fly in the face of everything else we consider canon, and really offers no important information. It basically seems to have been made solely to sell ODST toys with pink splashes on them.

All in all the HGN was very disappointing for me. Combine with what happened to Halo 2, and I'm growing much more cynical about the Haloverse. I see a lot of people on here saying "Well, I trust Bungie, they'll come through."

I can't honestly say that. I only came to find out about Bungie as a result of Halo (and I would daresay that 95%+ of the people who are Halo fans are the same way), and that's the only familiarity I have with them. I don't know anything about their old Mac games, and I don't really care, to be honest. I'm only a Bungie fan by virtue of Halo, and it's the Haloverse I have to judge them by. What I'm seeing now does not provoke from me the same faith that I'm seeing others claim to have. I'm worried.


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I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Cody Miller 8/10/06 1:45 p.m.
     Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Jillybean 8/10/06 1:54 p.m.
     I hope Ghosts of Coral deliversc0ld vengeance 8/10/06 2:00 p.m.
           Re: I hope Ghosts of Coral deliversJillybean 8/10/06 2:05 p.m.
                 Re: I hope Ghosts of Coral deliversIbeechu 8/10/06 2:13 p.m.
           Re: I hope Ghosts of Coral deliversSpenser 8/10/06 2:27 p.m.
     Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Ibeechu 8/10/06 2:10 p.m.
           Re: I'm getting worried...*rant*Cocopjojo 8/10/06 2:44 p.m.
                 Re: I'm getting worried...*rant*ubersaurus 8/10/06 3:26 p.m.
     Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*reprobate 8/10/06 3:15 p.m.
     I liked it... *Small HGN Spoilers*Mister Froggy 8/10/06 3:44 p.m.
     Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Omega 8/10/06 7:36 p.m.
           Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*reprobate 8/10/06 9:45 p.m.
     Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Dark One 8/10/06 9:02 p.m.
           Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Cody Miller 8/11/06 9:37 a.m.
                 Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Ducain 8/11/06 4:26 p.m.
                 Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Dark One 8/11/06 8:52 p.m.
                 Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*monkeywrench 8/12/06 5:23 p.m.
                 Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*nilsHaus 8/13/06 1:16 p.m.
     I actually partially agree with you.Spartan Jag 8/10/06 9:07 p.m.
           Re: I actually partially agree with you.Dark One 8/10/06 10:13 p.m.
                 Re: I actually partially agree with you.Ain Soph Aur 8/11/06 4:09 a.m.
                       Re: I actually partially agree with you.Dark One 8/11/06 8:57 p.m.
                             Re: I actually partially agree with you.Ain Soph Aur 8/12/06 12:47 a.m.
                                   Re: I actually partially agree with you.Dark One 8/12/06 5:31 p.m.
                 Re: I actually partially agree with you.putamee 8/11/06 5:19 p.m.
                       Re: I actually partially agree with you.Dark One 8/11/06 9:02 p.m.
     Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Ain Soph Aur 8/11/06 4:20 a.m.
           Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Dark One 8/11/06 9:09 p.m.
                 Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Omega 8/11/06 9:32 p.m.
                       Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Dark One 8/11/06 10:14 p.m.
                             Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Omega 8/11/06 10:39 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Dark One 8/11/06 11:24 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm getting worried *Small HGN Spoilers*Peptuck 8/11/06 11:56 p.m.
     IT will all end after Halo 3īs extention. *NM*I am that person 8/11/06 3:35 p.m.
     I'm curious...Shishka 8/11/06 10:03 p.m.
           Re: I'm curious...Peptuck 8/12/06 12:05 a.m.
                 Re: I'm curious...Ain Soph Aur 8/12/06 12:43 a.m.
                       Re: I'm curious...Peptuck 8/12/06 1:48 a.m.
                             Re: I'm curious...Ain Soph Aur 8/12/06 3:18 a.m.
                                   Re: I'm curious...Peptuck 8/12/06 1:27 p.m.
                                   "lounging around"=impersonalRagnarok 8/12/06 2:33 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm curious...Dark One 8/12/06 5:47 p.m.
                             Re: I'm curious...Omega 8/12/06 6:10 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm curious...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 8/12/06 10:23 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm curious... *The Flood SP*Schedonnardus 8/13/06 11:51 a.m.
                       Re: I'm curious...Dark One 8/12/06 5:57 p.m.
                             Re: I'm curious...Ducain 8/12/06 7:27 p.m.
           Re: I'm curious...Cody Miller 8/12/06 10:28 a.m.
           I don't even have the HGN yet. :( *NM*Slith 8/12/06 3:39 p.m.
                 Then what are you doing here? *NM*nilsHaus 8/13/06 1:19 p.m.
           Re: I'm curious...Narcogen 8/12/06 9:35 p.m.
     Waaaaaah.Peptuck 8/12/06 12:21 a.m.
           Re: Waaaaaah.Mister Froggy 8/12/06 9:05 a.m.
                 Re: Waaaaaah.Dark One 8/12/06 5:49 p.m.



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