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Re: No.
Posted By: QuirelDate: 12/30/12 3:33 p.m.

In Response To: Re: No. (TDSpiral)


: You know, I didn't used to agree with you very much on Halo 4, but I really
: do see where you're coming from. Since the game's been out for nearly 2
: months, I've kind of had the brand newness of it wear off, and now I see
: the game for what it is more clearly.

: It's just weird because, there's nothing we can do about it. Halo 4 already
: happened. I guess we could sit and talk about how weird it was compared to
: the other Halo games, but I don't really know what that's supposed to do.

Mostly, it serves as group therapy. Worked wonders for ME3.

: I guess in my mind I'm thinking "hey, maybe all this fan discussion
: about details being important to stories will help out with Halo 5's
: development."

On the other hand, maybe we get together and complain because sitting around the campfire talking about the newest Star Wars movie is what fans do.

Pass the marshmallows, will you?

: For better or for worse, this is the direction we're
: stuck in. Maybe they could just totally cross out Halo 4, and return Halo
: to its roots for the fifth game- it just doesn't seem like that's the
: answer. I can't think if it's better to completely rewrite what just
: happened, or keep going in the direction they were going.

At this point, I don't think pretending H4 never existed is going to help anything.
The root of the problem is that 343i is calling the shots.

The people in charge at 343i are people who think that QTEs are an adequate substitute for a boss battle. People who think that a modern warfare makeover is what the UNSC and the Covenant needed. People who believe their own hype.

If they tore down everything and restarted, what guarantee is there that they'd get it right the second time around?

: Either way, 343 changed things. The series won't logically just revert back
: to how everything was before Halo 4.

"Those mob fools fans want you gone so they can get back to the way things were. But I know the truth: there's no going back. You've changed things... forever."

: It's just not really enough to make me care too much anymore. I love playing
: Halo, and you guys are all great, having the opportunity to meet some of
: you in person was amazing. But I don't think I really care about Halo
: anymore. And it makes me terribly sad because 343 is a talented group of
: people. I thought if anyone could do Halo right, it would've been them.

There was some talent at Bungie that made Halo what it was, and I don't think that 343i got any of that talent with the Bungie staffers who jumped ship.

: I'm not going to say 343 ruined Halo for me. Their vision for Halo doesn't
: match up with mine, and that's all there is to it.

Query how you draw the distinction between the two?


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Stop with your logicCody Miller 12/28/12 1:49 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logic *SP*Jaydee 12/28/12 2:44 a.m.
     I.. Uhhh.... Agree...? With.... You....Lurono 12/28/12 3:22 a.m.
           Also meant Adywan instead of Adi-Wan *NM*Lurono 12/28/12 3:26 a.m.
           Re: I.. Uhhh.... Agree...? With.... You....Cody Miller 12/28/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Email sent *NM*Lurono 12/28/12 8:56 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicuberfoop 12/28/12 3:22 a.m.
           Re: Stop with your logic *SP*rhubarb 12/28/12 5:39 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicDEEP NNN 12/28/12 7:43 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicMetalingus627 12/28/12 9:43 a.m.
     I like this post. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 10:58 a.m.
     A nice hypothesis...NsU Soldier 12/28/12 11:05 a.m.
           Re: A nice hypothesis...Cody Miller 12/28/12 11:31 a.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...Leisandir 12/28/12 11:53 a.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 11:55 a.m.
                       Re: A nice hypothesis...Cody Miller 12/28/12 12:11 p.m.
                             Re: A nice hypothesis...SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 5:01 p.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...NsU Soldier 12/28/12 12:19 p.m.
                       This!Chewbaccawakka 12/28/12 12:59 p.m.
     The Loftus ApproachLeviathan 12/28/12 11:16 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 11:24 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus Approachmc_leprechaun 12/28/12 11:27 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachThe Lionheart 12/28/12 5:28 p.m.
           Qouth the Falcon, "YES!" *NM*NsU Soldier 12/28/12 11:33 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/28/12 11:35 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachSonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 3:09 p.m.
                       Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/28/12 3:22 p.m.
                             Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 5:56 p.m.
                                   Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 12:47 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 1:26 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachSimpsons Rule 12/29/12 1:56 a.m.
                                               Re: The Loftus Approachuberfoop 12/29/12 5:15 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachSimpsons Rule 12/29/12 2:49 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus Approachuberfoop 12/29/12 9:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:52 p.m.
                                                                 Talking about this? *IMG*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Talking about this? *IMG*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/30/12 5:52 p.m.
                                                                             Ah, okay.The Lionheart 12/30/12 6:03 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachGravemind 12/30/12 5:07 p.m.
                                               Thank you for this post. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:15 p.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachRagashingo 12/29/12 2:42 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 11:21 a.m.
                                               Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 11:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachLeisandir 12/29/12 1:20 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 3:36 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Loftus ApproachLeisandir 12/29/12 3:38 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:38 p.m.
                                                                             Same here. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 5:01 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/30/12 11:55 a.m.
                                                                 Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/30/12 1:27 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Loftus ApproachThe Lionheart 12/30/12 5:25 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Loftus ApproachArchilen 12/30/12 11:36 p.m.
                                               Seconded. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:59 p.m.
                       Re: The Loftus ApproachSonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 5:19 p.m.
                             Wow, that sounds like my kinda guy!The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:35 p.m.
                       Agree with this also. *NM*The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:30 p.m.
           *applauds* You're so awesome, Levi.Gravemind 12/28/12 1:26 p.m.
           TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH *NM*The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:28 p.m.
           *Salute* *NM*Quirel 12/28/12 5:40 p.m.
     I don't disagree, but...SonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:29 a.m.
           My badSonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:36 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicscarab 12/28/12 12:09 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logicCody Miller 12/28/12 12:14 p.m.
     It wasn't emotionally compelling for me at all...Phoenix_9286 12/28/12 1:21 p.m.
     No.Quirel 12/28/12 6:15 p.m.
           Very well said, sir. *NM*Leisandir 12/28/12 8:11 p.m.
           As always, I agree with QuirelIbeechu 12/28/12 10:38 p.m.
                 Re: As always, I agree with QuirelCody Miller 12/29/12 1:18 a.m.
                       Re: As always, I agree with Quirelscarab 12/29/12 5:02 a.m.
                 Not quite.Quirel 12/30/12 3:15 a.m.
                       I know this is slightly OT, but . . . .Leisandir 12/30/12 8:49 a.m.
                             Re: I know this is slightly OT, but . . . .Quirel 12/30/12 1:50 p.m.
           Re: No.TDSpiral 12/29/12 12:09 a.m.
                 Re: No.Quirel 12/30/12 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: No.scarab 12/31/12 8:51 a.m.
                 This is the limbo that I find myself in now. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:04 p.m.
           Re: No.Cody Miller 12/29/12 1:04 a.m.
                 Re: No.Flynn J Taggart 12/29/12 2:12 a.m.
                 Re: No.Quirel 12/31/12 1:57 a.m.
                       Re: No.uberfoop 12/31/12 4:18 a.m.
                 Re: No.RC Master 12/31/12 8:59 a.m.
                 Your brain doesn't work the same way as mine. O_o *NM*The Lionheart 1/1/13 5:08 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicKermit 12/28/12 10:59 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logicIbeechu 12/28/12 11:57 p.m.
                 Consistency and the Rules of Two WorldsNsU Soldier 12/29/12 7:06 a.m.
                 Re: Stop with your logicLeisandir 12/29/12 9:12 a.m.
                       Re: Stop with your logicscarab 12/29/12 9:30 a.m.
                             Re: Stop with your logicLeisandir 12/29/12 11:08 a.m.
                                   Tru datscarab 12/29/12 12:11 p.m.
                                         Re: Tru datLeisandir 12/29/12 1:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Tru datCody Miller 12/29/12 3:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Tru datLeisandir 12/29/12 3:39 p.m.
                 Re: Stop with your logicKermit 12/29/12 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: Stop with your logicIbeechu 12/29/12 7:32 p.m.
     Totally disagreeAvateur 12/29/12 1:04 a.m.
           Re: Totally disagreeStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: Totally disagreeAvateur 12/29/12 1:47 p.m.
                       Re: Totally disagreeKalamari 12/29/12 6:44 p.m.
                             It's dog food?scarab 12/29/12 6:55 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicGeneral Vagueness 1/5/13 7:40 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logic *LONG*Dundre 1/7/13 7:42 a.m.



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