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Re: The Loftus Approach
Posted By: uberfoopDate: 12/29/12 9:46 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The Loftus Approach (Simpsons Rule)


: But when I saw it docked in Reach , it didn't bring back any of that
: emotion. It just confused me. It didn't make sense.

: I get that there's a similarity, but realistically it'd be hard to put the
: Pillar of Autumn anywhere without the imagery matching. It's a long
: horizontal ship, afterall. The vista isn't really a match either. But that
: cutscene at the end that mirrors the opening of Halo: CE? I just rewatched
: it - it still gives me chills. That's a Halo: CE connection I can get
: behind.

The Autumn is sitting upright with its front tier and much of its second tier sticking out over a very long cliff edge, with vast and rather apocalyptic plains stretching far into the distance, all set to a brownish colour scheme, and with the ship first shown to be on the cliff edge in this manner from its left side.

The above describes both scenes. That's not just coincidence. I'm not saying it worked, though it did a little for me; I'm saying that that's what they were going for. If it worked as intended for you, we probably wouldn't be having this bit of discussion. :)

: That seems a bit much don't you think? The Pillar of Autumn was around
: Reach when the Covenant attacked. That's a lot of opportunity to make a
: Halo: CE connection. I'm not saying you get rid of it being there, I'm
: just saying the connection should make more sense. How awesome would it
: have been to view a scene more closely tied to The Fall of Reach where
: Keyes engages the Covenant in space and communicates with Noble 6 via a
: comm channel?

I don't know how awesome it would have been to view a scene where Keyes engages the Covenant in space and communicates with Noble 6 via a comm channel. That (and pretty much all ways I've read of mostly preserving Reach while unifying it to other stuff) sound quite detached, actually. The connection is stated to be there, but the meaningful imagery is gone. It wouldn't be conflicting with things, but it would be less capable of accomplishing iots bold aims. Hence why nuke and pave isn't a terrible way to go. If you'd have to dumb something down to make it comfortable to the user within the implied framework, it might be better to do something else.

I had the same problem with Halo 2. They can tell me that Arby was in command of the enemies from Halo 1, but if he hangs out with hammy Elizabethan actors (as opposed to anything resembling what I thought of as elites back in 2004) and never kills any humans, I'm just not feeling it.


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Stop with your logicCody Miller 12/28/12 1:49 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logic *SP*Jaydee 12/28/12 2:44 a.m.
     I.. Uhhh.... Agree...? With.... You....Lurono 12/28/12 3:22 a.m.
           Also meant Adywan instead of Adi-Wan *NM*Lurono 12/28/12 3:26 a.m.
           Re: I.. Uhhh.... Agree...? With.... You....Cody Miller 12/28/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Email sent *NM*Lurono 12/28/12 8:56 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicuberfoop 12/28/12 3:22 a.m.
           Re: Stop with your logic *SP*rhubarb 12/28/12 5:39 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicDEEP NNN 12/28/12 7:43 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicMetalingus627 12/28/12 9:43 a.m.
     I like this post. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 10:58 a.m.
     A nice hypothesis...NsU Soldier 12/28/12 11:05 a.m.
           Re: A nice hypothesis...Cody Miller 12/28/12 11:31 a.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...Leisandir 12/28/12 11:53 a.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 11:55 a.m.
                       Re: A nice hypothesis...Cody Miller 12/28/12 12:11 p.m.
                             Re: A nice hypothesis...SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 5:01 p.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...NsU Soldier 12/28/12 12:19 p.m.
                       This!Chewbaccawakka 12/28/12 12:59 p.m.
     The Loftus ApproachLeviathan 12/28/12 11:16 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 11:24 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus Approachmc_leprechaun 12/28/12 11:27 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachThe Lionheart 12/28/12 5:28 p.m.
           Qouth the Falcon, "YES!" *NM*NsU Soldier 12/28/12 11:33 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/28/12 11:35 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachSonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 3:09 p.m.
                       Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/28/12 3:22 p.m.
                             Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 5:56 p.m.
                                   Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 12:47 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 1:26 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachSimpsons Rule 12/29/12 1:56 a.m.
                                               Re: The Loftus Approachuberfoop 12/29/12 5:15 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachSimpsons Rule 12/29/12 2:49 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus Approachuberfoop 12/29/12 9:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:52 p.m.
                                                                 Talking about this? *IMG*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Talking about this? *IMG*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/30/12 5:52 p.m.
                                                                             Ah, okay.The Lionheart 12/30/12 6:03 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachGravemind 12/30/12 5:07 p.m.
                                               Thank you for this post. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:15 p.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachRagashingo 12/29/12 2:42 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 11:21 a.m.
                                               Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 11:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachLeisandir 12/29/12 1:20 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 3:36 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Loftus ApproachLeisandir 12/29/12 3:38 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:38 p.m.
                                                                             Same here. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 5:01 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/30/12 11:55 a.m.
                                                                 Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/30/12 1:27 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Loftus ApproachThe Lionheart 12/30/12 5:25 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Loftus ApproachArchilen 12/30/12 11:36 p.m.
                                               Seconded. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:59 p.m.
                       Re: The Loftus ApproachSonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 5:19 p.m.
                             Wow, that sounds like my kinda guy!The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:35 p.m.
                       Agree with this also. *NM*The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:30 p.m.
           *applauds* You're so awesome, Levi.Gravemind 12/28/12 1:26 p.m.
           TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH *NM*The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:28 p.m.
           *Salute* *NM*Quirel 12/28/12 5:40 p.m.
     I don't disagree, but...SonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:29 a.m.
           My badSonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:36 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicscarab 12/28/12 12:09 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logicCody Miller 12/28/12 12:14 p.m.
     It wasn't emotionally compelling for me at all...Phoenix_9286 12/28/12 1:21 p.m.
     No.Quirel 12/28/12 6:15 p.m.
           Very well said, sir. *NM*Leisandir 12/28/12 8:11 p.m.
           As always, I agree with QuirelIbeechu 12/28/12 10:38 p.m.
                 Re: As always, I agree with QuirelCody Miller 12/29/12 1:18 a.m.
                       Re: As always, I agree with Quirelscarab 12/29/12 5:02 a.m.
                 Not quite.Quirel 12/30/12 3:15 a.m.
                       I know this is slightly OT, but . . . .Leisandir 12/30/12 8:49 a.m.
                             Re: I know this is slightly OT, but . . . .Quirel 12/30/12 1:50 p.m.
           Re: No.TDSpiral 12/29/12 12:09 a.m.
                 Re: No.Quirel 12/30/12 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: No.scarab 12/31/12 8:51 a.m.
                 This is the limbo that I find myself in now. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:04 p.m.
           Re: No.Cody Miller 12/29/12 1:04 a.m.
                 Re: No.Flynn J Taggart 12/29/12 2:12 a.m.
                 Re: No.Quirel 12/31/12 1:57 a.m.
                       Re: No.uberfoop 12/31/12 4:18 a.m.
                 Re: No.RC Master 12/31/12 8:59 a.m.
                 Your brain doesn't work the same way as mine. O_o *NM*The Lionheart 1/1/13 5:08 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicKermit 12/28/12 10:59 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logicIbeechu 12/28/12 11:57 p.m.
                 Consistency and the Rules of Two WorldsNsU Soldier 12/29/12 7:06 a.m.
                 Re: Stop with your logicLeisandir 12/29/12 9:12 a.m.
                       Re: Stop with your logicscarab 12/29/12 9:30 a.m.
                             Re: Stop with your logicLeisandir 12/29/12 11:08 a.m.
                                   Tru datscarab 12/29/12 12:11 p.m.
                                         Re: Tru datLeisandir 12/29/12 1:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Tru datCody Miller 12/29/12 3:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Tru datLeisandir 12/29/12 3:39 p.m.
                 Re: Stop with your logicKermit 12/29/12 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: Stop with your logicIbeechu 12/29/12 7:32 p.m.
     Totally disagreeAvateur 12/29/12 1:04 a.m.
           Re: Totally disagreeStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: Totally disagreeAvateur 12/29/12 1:47 p.m.
                       Re: Totally disagreeKalamari 12/29/12 6:44 p.m.
                             It's dog food?scarab 12/29/12 6:55 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicGeneral Vagueness 1/5/13 7:40 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logic *LONG*Dundre 1/7/13 7:42 a.m.



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