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Re: Stop with your logic
Posted By: IbeechuDate: 12/29/12 7:32 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Stop with your logic (Kermit)


: NsU has already responded well, but I don't think you and I really disagree
: that much. I totally get that being realistic can and often should take a
: back seat to story. Reality is often messy and doesn't make sense, and
: that's why we like stories--they DO make sense in a way that reality often
: does not. If you're creating a story, especially one that involves
: significant world building, the latter is part of the appeal of what
: you're doing. You don't alter what's been established unless: (1) the
: story demands it, (2) you don't have the capacity to "square the
: circle," or (3) you don't have the will to do it. IMHO, #1 doesn't
: apply to Halo 4.

You know, I may have just misinterpreted your post. If what you're arguing for is internal consistency, then I'm way with you. Internal consistency is a necessary part of a story/characters as far as I'm concerned. And it's one of the (somewhat many) reasons I really dislike Halo 4.

It's one thing to have the Didact go from being a human sympathizer to being Hitler. As long as that change is, you know, earned. Instead of... nothing at all happening to explain it. Maybe that's explained in the upcoming Forerunner book but, if it is, then 343 utterly sucks at presenting a story in a coherent manner. If it isn't, then 343 utterly sucks at keeping a character clear and consistent.

Really, I didn't have much time earlier when I wrote my previous post, so I'm not entirely sure what I was trying to say. I don't think it came off clearly because I didn't even know what my point was.

Guess I'm good enough to work at 343, though!


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Stop with your logicCody Miller 12/28/12 1:49 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logic *SP*Jaydee 12/28/12 2:44 a.m.
     I.. Uhhh.... Agree...? With.... You....Lurono 12/28/12 3:22 a.m.
           Also meant Adywan instead of Adi-Wan *NM*Lurono 12/28/12 3:26 a.m.
           Re: I.. Uhhh.... Agree...? With.... You....Cody Miller 12/28/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Email sent *NM*Lurono 12/28/12 8:56 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicuberfoop 12/28/12 3:22 a.m.
           Re: Stop with your logic *SP*rhubarb 12/28/12 5:39 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicDEEP NNN 12/28/12 7:43 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicMetalingus627 12/28/12 9:43 a.m.
     I like this post. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 10:58 a.m.
     A nice hypothesis...NsU Soldier 12/28/12 11:05 a.m.
           Re: A nice hypothesis...Cody Miller 12/28/12 11:31 a.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...Leisandir 12/28/12 11:53 a.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 11:55 a.m.
                       Re: A nice hypothesis...Cody Miller 12/28/12 12:11 p.m.
                             Re: A nice hypothesis...SonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 5:01 p.m.
                 Re: A nice hypothesis...NsU Soldier 12/28/12 12:19 p.m.
                       This!Chewbaccawakka 12/28/12 12:59 p.m.
     The Loftus ApproachLeviathan 12/28/12 11:16 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 11:24 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus Approachmc_leprechaun 12/28/12 11:27 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachThe Lionheart 12/28/12 5:28 p.m.
           Qouth the Falcon, "YES!" *NM*NsU Soldier 12/28/12 11:33 a.m.
           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/28/12 11:35 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachSonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 3:09 p.m.
                       Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/28/12 3:22 p.m.
                             Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/28/12 5:56 p.m.
                                   Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 12:47 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 1:26 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachSimpsons Rule 12/29/12 1:56 a.m.
                                               Re: The Loftus Approachuberfoop 12/29/12 5:15 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachSimpsons Rule 12/29/12 2:49 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus Approachuberfoop 12/29/12 9:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:52 p.m.
                                                                 Talking about this? *IMG*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Talking about this? *IMG*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/30/12 5:52 p.m.
                                                                             Ah, okay.The Lionheart 12/30/12 6:03 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachGravemind 12/30/12 5:07 p.m.
                                               Thank you for this post. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:15 p.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachRagashingo 12/29/12 2:42 a.m.
                                         Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 11:21 a.m.
                                               Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 11:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachLeisandir 12/29/12 1:20 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/29/12 3:36 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Loftus ApproachLeisandir 12/29/12 3:38 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:38 p.m.
                                                                             Same here. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 5:01 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 9:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Loftus ApproachCody Miller 12/30/12 11:55 a.m.
                                                                 Re: The Loftus ApproachStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/30/12 1:27 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Loftus ApproachThe Lionheart 12/30/12 5:25 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Loftus ApproachArchilen 12/30/12 11:36 p.m.
                                               Seconded. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:59 p.m.
                       Re: The Loftus ApproachSonofMacPhisto 12/28/12 5:19 p.m.
                             Wow, that sounds like my kinda guy!The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:35 p.m.
                       Agree with this also. *NM*The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:30 p.m.
           *applauds* You're so awesome, Levi.Gravemind 12/28/12 1:26 p.m.
           TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH *NM*The Lionheart 12/28/12 5:28 p.m.
           *Salute* *NM*Quirel 12/28/12 5:40 p.m.
     I don't disagree, but...SonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:29 a.m.
           My badSonGoharotto 12/28/12 11:36 a.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicscarab 12/28/12 12:09 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logicCody Miller 12/28/12 12:14 p.m.
     It wasn't emotionally compelling for me at all...Phoenix_9286 12/28/12 1:21 p.m.
     No.Quirel 12/28/12 6:15 p.m.
           Very well said, sir. *NM*Leisandir 12/28/12 8:11 p.m.
           As always, I agree with QuirelIbeechu 12/28/12 10:38 p.m.
                 Re: As always, I agree with QuirelCody Miller 12/29/12 1:18 a.m.
                       Re: As always, I agree with Quirelscarab 12/29/12 5:02 a.m.
                 Not quite.Quirel 12/30/12 3:15 a.m.
                       I know this is slightly OT, but . . . .Leisandir 12/30/12 8:49 a.m.
                             Re: I know this is slightly OT, but . . . .Quirel 12/30/12 1:50 p.m.
           Re: No.TDSpiral 12/29/12 12:09 a.m.
                 Re: No.Quirel 12/30/12 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: No.scarab 12/31/12 8:51 a.m.
                 This is the limbo that I find myself in now. *NM*The Lionheart 12/30/12 4:04 p.m.
           Re: No.Cody Miller 12/29/12 1:04 a.m.
                 Re: No.Flynn J Taggart 12/29/12 2:12 a.m.
                 Re: No.Quirel 12/31/12 1:57 a.m.
                       Re: No.uberfoop 12/31/12 4:18 a.m.
                 Re: No.RC Master 12/31/12 8:59 a.m.
                 Your brain doesn't work the same way as mine. O_o *NM*The Lionheart 1/1/13 5:08 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicKermit 12/28/12 10:59 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logicIbeechu 12/28/12 11:57 p.m.
                 Consistency and the Rules of Two WorldsNsU Soldier 12/29/12 7:06 a.m.
                 Re: Stop with your logicLeisandir 12/29/12 9:12 a.m.
                       Re: Stop with your logicscarab 12/29/12 9:30 a.m.
                             Re: Stop with your logicLeisandir 12/29/12 11:08 a.m.
                                   Tru datscarab 12/29/12 12:11 p.m.
                                         Re: Tru datLeisandir 12/29/12 1:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Tru datCody Miller 12/29/12 3:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Tru datLeisandir 12/29/12 3:39 p.m.
                 Re: Stop with your logicKermit 12/29/12 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: Stop with your logicIbeechu 12/29/12 7:32 p.m.
     Totally disagreeAvateur 12/29/12 1:04 a.m.
           Re: Totally disagreeStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/29/12 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: Totally disagreeAvateur 12/29/12 1:47 p.m.
                       Re: Totally disagreeKalamari 12/29/12 6:44 p.m.
                             It's dog food?scarab 12/29/12 6:55 p.m.
     Re: Stop with your logicGeneral Vagueness 1/5/13 7:40 p.m.
           Re: Stop with your logic *LONG*Dundre 1/7/13 7:42 a.m.



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