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Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?
Posted By: BryDate: 2/17/10 9:46 a.m.

In Response To: Why recycle environments for multiplayer? (jazo)


: In all the Halo games there has obviously been a sense that the maps we
: played in multiplayer were somewhat inspired by stuff from campaign.
: However in none of them were we told right out "In this new Halo, the
: multiplayer maps are taken directly from campaign, possibly at a different
: time of day..." and what not.

: Why is this necessary? Part of the ongoing appeal of some of my favorite maps
: are how mysterious their location is. Damnation was unlike anything you
: came across in campaign and had such a unique feel as its own space.
: Lockout became the fan favorite and its location is almost indescribable.
: Valhalla conjures feelings of a Forerunner locale that you never quite
: made it to on the Ark in Halo 3.

: I guess what I'm hoping is that if this is the way Bungie is creating
: locations for Reach's multiplayer maps, they do so in such a way that you
: won't really pop in and think "Oh I remember blasting my way through
: here during level X". Inspiration for the maps is one thing, but
: drawing directly from campaign environments just feels like a step in the
: wrong direction to me.

: Thoughts?

Depends. It certainly hasn't really hurt MW or MW2 to reuse a good bit of single player geometry in multiplayer, with a few simple tweaks here and there for the sake of balance.
And in theory it allows more maps to be made in a shorter time frame.

Its safe to say that for the vast majority, things like the mystique of the environment is completely irrelevant, so long as its functionality and playability is top notch. For multiplayer, that really has to be the priority, how well it works to play rather than how interesting it is to look at. That's all nice and good of course, but it should never be at the expense of the combat.

Ode to Joyous Flight HD



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Why recycle environments for multiplayer?jazo 2/17/10 9:19 a.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?pete_the_duck 2/17/10 9:39 a.m.
           Funny enough...GrimBrother One 2/17/10 9:46 a.m.
                 Re: Funny enough...jazo 2/17/10 10:40 a.m.
           Agreedjazo 2/17/10 10:46 a.m.
                 Tell that to the general audience. *NM*rolandk73 2/17/10 1:17 p.m.
                       Re: Tell that to the general audience.jazo 2/17/10 1:29 p.m.
                             Re: Tell that to the general audience.rolandk73 2/17/10 1:38 p.m.
                                   Re: Tell that to the general audience.jazo 2/17/10 1:41 p.m.
                                         Re: Tell that to the general audience.xMixMasterx 2/17/10 3:31 p.m.
                                               Re: Tell that to the general audience.Metalingus627 2/17/10 5:36 p.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Archilen 2/17/10 9:44 a.m.
           Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Archilen 2/17/10 9:49 a.m.
           Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?GrimBrother One 2/17/10 9:49 a.m.
                 Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Metalingus627 2/17/10 11:23 a.m.
                       Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?jazo 2/17/10 11:31 a.m.
                       Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?FyreWulff 2/17/10 12:04 p.m.
                             Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Archilen 2/17/10 12:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Archilen 2/17/10 12:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?FyreWulff 2/17/10 1:19 p.m.
                                               Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Archilen 2/17/10 1:29 p.m.
                                                     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Gravemind 2/17/10 1:39 p.m.
                                                           Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?FyreWulff 2/17/10 1:48 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Archilen 2/17/10 1:55 p.m.
                             Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Metalingus627 2/17/10 1:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?bluerunner 2/17/10 2:31 p.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Bry 2/17/10 9:46 a.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?DrDoctor 2/17/10 10:00 a.m.
           Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?jazo 2/17/10 10:35 a.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?FyreWulff 2/17/10 11:59 a.m.
           Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?jazo 2/17/10 12:19 p.m.
                 Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Jinno 2/17/10 2:31 p.m.
     Recycling is good for the environment! *NM*urk 2/17/10 12:12 p.m.
           Zing! =) *NM*jazo 2/17/10 12:21 p.m.
           Recycling is good for the production cycle ;) *NM*Nick 2/17/10 1:13 p.m.
     I always liked when maps had story, like ChironDustbunny27 2/17/10 12:52 p.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?Harmanimus 2/17/10 1:55 p.m.
           Speaking of which...rolandk73 2/17/10 2:58 p.m.
                 Re: Speaking of which...CaneCutter 2/17/10 3:56 p.m.
                       Re: Speaking of which...bluerunner 2/17/10 4:11 p.m.
                             Re: Speaking of which...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/17/10 5:29 p.m.
                                   Re: Speaking of which...bluerunner 2/17/10 6:49 p.m.
                             Re: Speaking of which...CaneCutter 2/17/10 5:59 p.m.
     it costs less *NM*Hawaiian Pig 2/17/10 4:21 p.m.
     Think about it in reverse.rhubarb 2/17/10 6:33 p.m.
     A polygon saved is a polygon earned. *NM*Narcogen 2/18/10 3:57 a.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?kidtsunami 2/18/10 8:15 a.m.
     Re: Why recycle environments for multiplayer?VAVA Mk2 2/18/10 5:52 p.m.



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