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Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net> | Date: 11/18/09 5:51 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Tips for Reach (Cody Miller) : If 30fps games and 60fps games did about the same, and 30fps games have : better graphics, then you could also conclude that graphics don't factor : into review scores and game purchases as well. Right?! No, not at all. There's no reason to draw that conclusion because there is already a data point for graphics quality irrespective of framerate: the component of the review score given to graphics. The conclusion there is not that graphics don't factor into review scores-- they do. There is a direct and proportional relationship between the graphics score and the total score. There is no trend between either the framerate and the graphics score or the framerate and the total score or the framerate and the sales figures. : Also, just as graphics have a column in reviews so does framerate: that would
I seriously doubt that. Framerate is one factor in responsiveness which is one factor in gameplay. However, I think it's entirely possible to make an unresponsive game with a high framerate if other portions of the design are problematic; it's also possible to make a game that is either good or bad, working or broken, fun or not fun, in ways that have nothing to do with framerate. There's also no obvious tradeoff between framerate and gameplay such that having a higher framerate necessitates less fun, less interesting, or less challenging gameplay-- whereas a higher framerate does necessitate less GPU resources allocated to other tasks and thus does reduce perceived graphical fidelity. I realize you believe 60fps is just better. I realize that technically it is. The article just suggests that, as a whole, console game buyers don't really care, and that even when they say they do care, their purchase behaviors don't follow their stated preferences. Is it really that hard to believe?
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Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/9/09 9:26 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Leisandir | 11/9/09 9:33 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 9:36 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | serpx | 11/9/09 9:38 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | InnerRayg | 11/9/09 9:39 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Devin Olsen | 11/9/09 9:46 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Crab | 11/9/09 9:49 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | SPARTAN 294 | 11/9/09 9:56 p.m. |
agreein with this post *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 10:02 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | InnerRayg | 11/10/09 2:05 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:12 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 2:49 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 3:01 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:23 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 1:43 p.m. |
Completely agree | Metalingus627 | 11/10/09 2:18 p.m. |
Re: Completely agree | Narcogen | 11/10/09 11:55 p.m. |
Re: Completely agree | Metalingus627 | 11/11/09 3:52 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/10/09 3:00 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 5:25 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 11:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/11/09 2:20 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 5:17 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/11/09 2:32 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | chris101b | 11/11/09 12:43 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/12/09 6:01 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | chris101b | 11/13/09 1:27 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | InnerRayg | 11/10/09 6:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/9/09 9:55 p.m. |
agreein with this post *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 9:59 p.m. |
and a P.S. : | Hunt3r | 11/9/09 10:02 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ragashingo | 11/9/09 10:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Leisandir | 11/11/09 3:05 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/9/09 9:55 p.m. |
agreein with this post *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 10:00 p.m. |
Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:08 p.m. |
Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 8:16 p.m. |
Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:22 p.m. |
Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 8:33 p.m. |
Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:48 p.m. |
Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | Vincent | 11/11/09 2:47 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | kanbo | 11/9/09 10:04 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | dizzy | 11/9/09 10:18 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bernard Strauss | 11/9/09 10:41 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach - my p.o.v. | Hedgemony | 11/9/09 11:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach - my p.o.v. | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:08 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach - my p.o.v. | SonofMacPhisto | 11/10/09 9:24 a.m. |
What have you started? | scarab | 11/10/09 9:34 a.m. |
Re: What have you started? | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 9:38 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Captain Spark | 11/9/09 10:29 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ragashingo | 11/9/09 10:59 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Captain Spark | 11/9/09 11:03 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:14 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/10/09 2:47 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Rosco-128 | 11/9/09 10:38 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:19 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Rosco-128 | 11/9/09 11:56 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/10/09 12:29 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/10/09 8:47 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/10/09 9:48 a.m. |
EEK ODST *SP* ^^^^ *NM* | scarab | 11/10/09 9:50 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Metalingus627 | 11/10/09 2:24 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | The BS Police | 11/9/09 10:40 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cortana 5 | 11/9/09 10:42 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | The BS Police | 11/9/09 10:49 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cortana 5 | 11/9/09 10:56 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 11:00 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/9/09 11:20 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:24 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hedgemony | 11/9/09 11:04 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | ArteenEsben | 11/9/09 10:47 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:29 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | ArteenEsben | 11/10/09 10:38 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:46 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ragashingo | 11/9/09 10:48 p.m. |
My Tip for Reach | ZaneZavin | 11/9/09 11:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | bluerunner | 11/10/09 9:45 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/10/09 10:50 a.m. |
Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon/H1 | Avateur | 11/9/09 11:03 p.m. |
speaking of reach... | crzymnky069 | 11/9/09 11:07 p.m. |
Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Narcogen | 11/10/09 12:12 a.m. |
Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Avateur | 11/10/09 12:40 a.m. |
Reachathon? | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:11 a.m. |
Re: Reachathon? | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 12:41 p.m. |
Re: Reachathon? | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/10/09 1:37 p.m. |
Re: Reachathon? | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 2:19 p.m. |
Re: Reachathon? | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 3:26 p.m. |
Re: Reachathon? | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:08 a.m. |
Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:06 a.m. |
Heresy! | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:30 a.m. |
Re: Heresy! | Avateur | 11/10/09 3:37 a.m. |
Re: Heresy! | Narcogen | 11/10/09 4:08 a.m. |
Re: Heresy! | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 12:26 p.m. |
5 minutes to learn, a lifetime to master | RC Master | 11/10/09 9:16 p.m. |
Re: Heresy! | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:12 a.m. |
Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Bry | 11/10/09 7:18 a.m. |
Adjustable Auto Aim | ManKitten | 11/9/09 11:31 p.m. |
Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | crzymnky069 | 11/9/09 11:49 p.m. |
Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | urk | 11/10/09 10:32 a.m. |
Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | ManKitten | 11/10/09 1:17 p.m. |
Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | Gravemind | 11/11/09 1:00 p.m. |
Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | RC Master | 11/10/09 9:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | reprobate | 11/10/09 12:26 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 12:35 a.m. |
First Person View! | Cody Moore | 11/10/09 1:14 a.m. |
Re: First Person View! | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:23 a.m. |
Third Person View! | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:37 a.m. |
Re: Third Person View! | bluerunner | 11/10/09 9:27 a.m. |
Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 2:05 p.m. |
Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:59 p.m. |
Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 4:35 p.m. |
Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | General Vagueness | 11/10/09 4:06 p.m. |
Re: Third Person View! | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:28 p.m. |
Re: First Person View! | ArteenEsben | 11/10/09 10:51 a.m. |
Re: First Person View! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/10/09 10:58 a.m. |
Re: First Person View! | ArteenEsben | 11/10/09 11:20 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:08 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bungiez | 11/10/09 1:09 a.m. |
i wanna say this is kp *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/10/09 2:39 a.m. |
Re: i wanna say this is kp | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 8:30 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Someone | 11/10/09 2:10 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/10/09 5:17 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bernard Strauss | 11/10/09 4:12 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/10/09 5:04 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | DrDoctor | 11/10/09 2:14 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/10/09 5:35 a.m. |
Wort wort wort | Cody Moore | 11/10/09 6:05 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | hyokin | 11/10/09 10:25 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 10:44 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | c0ld vengeance | 11/10/09 12:36 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Arkesane | 11/10/09 12:47 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | padraig08 | 11/10/09 1:02 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Avateur | 11/10/09 12:47 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | c0ld vengeance | 11/10/09 12:52 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | bluerunner | 11/10/09 1:01 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 1:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | FyreWulff | 11/10/09 5:12 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:02 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | urk | 11/10/09 10:43 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 10:45 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/10/09 10:54 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 12:44 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:20 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/10/09 3:30 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/10/09 10:48 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/10/09 11:23 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | padraig08 | 11/10/09 1:20 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/11/09 8:34 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/11/09 8:44 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/11/09 9:58 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/11/09 9:59 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/11/09 10:20 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/11/09 12:47 p.m. |
•No barriers or kill zones anywhere in the game. | c0ld vengeance | 11/10/09 12:03 p.m. |
Wow, beat me to it. | profhalo | 11/10/09 1:13 p.m. |
Re: Wow, beat me to it. | Cody Moore | 11/10/09 4:59 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/10/09 1:26 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Matt | 11/10/09 3:44 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 3:50 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | SonofMacPhisto | 11/10/09 4:26 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/10/09 4:39 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | nash--housewares | 11/10/09 4:50 p.m. |
At-least-semi-valid jackassery. *NM* | Eiii | 11/10/09 7:11 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | ManKitten | 11/10/09 8:37 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:24 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Matt | 11/11/09 12:04 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/11/09 12:36 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/11/09 1:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ducain | 11/11/09 1:28 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | ManKitten | 11/11/09 1:29 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 10:37 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hedgemony | 11/11/09 10:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Matt | 11/11/09 2:11 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/11/09 3:12 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/11/09 3:46 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/11/09 3:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 10:43 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/12/09 3:16 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/12/09 3:39 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/12/09 4:55 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/12/09 12:38 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/12/09 12:45 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/12/09 12:54 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/12/09 1:05 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/12/09 1:22 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:20 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/13/09 2:54 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 4:16 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/13/09 2:53 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Mercury | 11/13/09 4:03 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/13/09 11:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/14/09 12:57 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/12/09 2:24 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hedgemony | 11/12/09 4:47 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/12/09 5:06 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:16 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:31 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:41 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Mercury | 11/13/09 3:49 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 10:31 p.m. |
Tips for arguments. | Mercury | 11/12/09 5:41 p.m. |
Re: Tips for arguments. | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:29 a.m. |
Re: Tips for arguments. | Mercury | 11/13/09 3:35 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/12/09 6:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:35 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/13/09 5:56 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 8:36 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/13/09 10:59 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/14/09 1:03 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 2:39 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/14/09 4:02 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 1:47 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/14/09 2:43 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/14/09 3:58 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 4:26 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/14/09 5:13 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 5:38 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Vincent | 11/14/09 5:49 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/14/09 7:14 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/14/09 7:19 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/14/09 11:56 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/14/09 12:36 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:28 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:39 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Leviathan | 11/12/09 6:29 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/12/09 1:24 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Captain Spark | 11/12/09 1:25 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/13/09 8:11 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/13/09 8:26 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/12/09 9:48 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/12/09 11:09 a.m. |
"Accessable hardcore games." | Gravemind | 11/12/09 8:29 p.m. |
Re: "Accessable hardcore games." | scarab | 11/13/09 5:16 a.m. |
Re: "Accessable hardcore games." | Gravemind | 11/13/09 12:30 p.m. |
Re: "Accessable hardcore games." | scarab | 11/13/09 2:23 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/12/09 9:46 a.m. |
Pure Win, As Usual *NM* | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:22 a.m. |
Two things | rhubarb | 11/10/09 7:34 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Gravemind | 11/11/09 2:19 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Gravemind | 11/12/09 12:52 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ducain | 11/12/09 10:30 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/12/09 11:05 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Mirel | 11/12/09 12:06 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ducain | 11/12/09 1:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | zofinda | 11/12/09 1:27 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | DarkS7G | 11/12/09 1:54 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Mirel | 11/12/09 3:08 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Metalingus627 | 11/12/09 3:25 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:53 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/13/09 5:56 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 2:26 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 2:38 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 2:48 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 12:03 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Leviathan | 11/16/09 3:16 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 6:11 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 11:55 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ibeechu | 11/16/09 12:19 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Ibeechu | 11/16/09 12:21 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Dani | 11/16/09 12:27 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 12:35 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Dani | 11/16/09 12:43 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 2:18 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/16/09 3:01 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/16/09 2:16 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 2:24 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 9:04 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 9:56 p.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/17/09 5:30 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/17/09 12:45 p.m. |
Framerate and buying habits | Narcogen | 11/18/09 5:51 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | sorahn | 11/17/09 1:59 a.m. |
60 seems unreal anyway. Keep it 45 if you ask me | Mirel | 11/16/09 3:19 a.m. |
Bad idea | Narcogen | 11/16/09 6:08 a.m. |
Re: Tips for Reach | FyreWulff | 11/16/09 6:54 a.m. |
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