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| Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon/H1 | |
| Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com> | Date: 11/9/09 11:03 p.m. |
In Response To: Tips for Reach (Cody Miller) "Like Marathon" is fairly vague, so I'll focus on key points. Make the game challenging. I suppose this is part of the "forget casual gamers" thing everyone is saying, and honestly, I may have to agree. I understand making the game accessible to all people, but games from the past that have been successful (pretty much 2001 and before) didn't need to dumb every single interaction down and make everything linear in order to make sales and get popular. Marathon makes you WORK, especially in Infinity, where things can get extremely difficult at times. H3? Pretty much every battle, even if I can go about each battle differently, is linear and straight forward with the enemies doing the exact same things every time. Marathon? They seek me out and actually try to and want to kill me, and they don't let up on me. Don't dumb the game down. I'm not stupid. The games Bungie tends to make are 17+, which means they should challenge me, even if it means forcing me to think and strategize in order to get through an area. Running and gunning can be fun, but there's nothing wrong with forcing me to fall back, find some different ammo, or maybe grab an entirely different gun. Oh, and if I do end up doing that, there is no reason for the enemies not to follow me and end up in my face the moment I turn around to go back. The terminals in Marathon? Excellent story-telling, cryptic, straight-forward, and vague all at the same time. I don't need a story handed to me like in H3. H1 had that "authentic" Bungie feel to it, where the game being presented wasn't trying to encompass every 8 year old who shouldn't be playing the game as well as the target audience of 17+. The game was there to tell a story, with open environments (level Halo where I could literally drive anywhere or run anywhere and fight off the waves by acting as a sniper, going close combat, or sneaking about) and battles forcing me to fight uphill, downhill, through tight corridors, and on open terrain (with or without vehicles). It truly was me against the world, and the world was awesome. Marathon was the same way. If I can get lost in a level, that's damn good. It's not linear, it's challenging, and it forces me to be observant. Some areas can have a linear, asymmetrical feel to them, but to make it that way on nearly every level is ridiculous. Real life doesn't give me the benefit of dealing with adversity in walled off (invisible or otherwise) areas, and neither should Reach. The Marines in Halo almost appear dumber than the BOBs in Marathon. The BOBs in Marathon fought pretty damn well for me, rarely if ever shot me, and could be counted on until they got overwhelmed and taken out. The Marines in Halo end up killing me more often than they kill my enemies. I don't want them to just rush in and take care of every Covenant bastard on their own, but when you have characters like Dare throwing grenades at you and mocking you the entire time (and I can't even kill her), it gets frustrating. It's bad when I have to resort to killing the Marines and ODSTs that are near me because I'm afraid they're going to run me over, take my Hog away from me if I step out of it for 2 seconds, or blow me up at random. Basically, get that old Bungie feel back. Just because you have to appeal to 10 million people doesn't mean you have to dumb the game down and make it as simple as humanly possible. I'll even reference CoD4 and what CoD MW2 will most likely be. You know they won't be dumbing it down, keeping it linear, keeping me from strategizing or being observant, or making my enemies pushovers. Just like Marathon. Oh, and make the spawns better. I get the "point system" that determines where people spawn based on where people have died or been dying a lot, but there's no reason for an entire team to spawn directly in front of me while I'm already in a room or when I'm walking right in. Or in the case of High Ground, if I'm on the beach sniping with a teammate, there is no reason for their guys to spawn right above me or directly behind me. That's all I can think of for now! I agree with many of the other posts in this topic, too. It might be too late to apply a lot of this to Reach, but it's definitely worth considering with Bungie's new fresh start away from Halo (assuming the new IP isn't just a rebrand to keep Microsoft's hands off of it).
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| Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/9/09 9:26 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Leisandir | 11/9/09 9:33 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 9:36 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | serpx | 11/9/09 9:38 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | InnerRayg | 11/9/09 9:39 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Devin Olsen | 11/9/09 9:46 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Crab | 11/9/09 9:49 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | SPARTAN 294 | 11/9/09 9:56 p.m. |
| agreein with this post *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 10:02 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | InnerRayg | 11/10/09 2:05 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:12 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 2:49 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 3:01 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:23 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 1:43 p.m. |
| Completely agree | Metalingus627 | 11/10/09 2:18 p.m. |
| Re: Completely agree | Narcogen | 11/10/09 11:55 p.m. |
| Re: Completely agree | Metalingus627 | 11/11/09 3:52 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/10/09 3:00 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 5:25 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 11:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/11/09 2:20 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 5:17 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/11/09 2:32 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | chris101b | 11/11/09 12:43 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/12/09 6:01 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | chris101b | 11/13/09 1:27 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | InnerRayg | 11/10/09 6:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/9/09 9:55 p.m. |
| agreein with this post *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 9:59 p.m. |
| and a P.S. : | Hunt3r | 11/9/09 10:02 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ragashingo | 11/9/09 10:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Leisandir | 11/11/09 3:05 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/9/09 9:55 p.m. |
| agreein with this post *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 10:00 p.m. |
| Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:08 p.m. |
| Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 8:16 p.m. |
| Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:22 p.m. |
| Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 8:33 p.m. |
| Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:48 p.m. |
| Re: Would be better if it was actual AI doing that | Vincent | 11/11/09 2:47 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | kanbo | 11/9/09 10:04 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | dizzy | 11/9/09 10:18 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bernard Strauss | 11/9/09 10:41 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach - my p.o.v. | Hedgemony | 11/9/09 11:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach - my p.o.v. | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:08 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach - my p.o.v. | SonofMacPhisto | 11/10/09 9:24 a.m. |
| What have you started? | scarab | 11/10/09 9:34 a.m. |
| Re: What have you started? | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 9:38 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Captain Spark | 11/9/09 10:29 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ragashingo | 11/9/09 10:59 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Captain Spark | 11/9/09 11:03 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:14 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/10/09 2:47 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Rosco-128 | 11/9/09 10:38 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:19 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Rosco-128 | 11/9/09 11:56 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/10/09 12:29 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/10/09 8:47 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/10/09 9:48 a.m. |
| EEK ODST *SP* ^^^^ *NM* | scarab | 11/10/09 9:50 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Metalingus627 | 11/10/09 2:24 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | The BS Police | 11/9/09 10:40 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cortana 5 | 11/9/09 10:42 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | The BS Police | 11/9/09 10:49 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cortana 5 | 11/9/09 10:56 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/9/09 11:00 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/9/09 11:20 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:24 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hedgemony | 11/9/09 11:04 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | ArteenEsben | 11/9/09 10:47 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/9/09 11:29 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | ArteenEsben | 11/10/09 10:38 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/10/09 8:46 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ragashingo | 11/9/09 10:48 p.m. |
| My Tip for Reach | ZaneZavin | 11/9/09 11:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | bluerunner | 11/10/09 9:45 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/10/09 10:50 a.m. |
| Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon/H1 | Avateur | 11/9/09 11:03 p.m. |
| speaking of reach... | crzymnky069 | 11/9/09 11:07 p.m. |
| Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Narcogen | 11/10/09 12:12 a.m. |
| Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Avateur | 11/10/09 12:40 a.m. |
| Reachathon? | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:11 a.m. |
| Re: Reachathon? | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 12:41 p.m. |
| Re: Reachathon? | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/10/09 1:37 p.m. |
| Re: Reachathon? | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 2:19 p.m. |
| Re: Reachathon? | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 3:26 p.m. |
| Re: Reachathon? | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:08 a.m. |
| Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:06 a.m. |
| Heresy! | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:30 a.m. |
| Re: Heresy! | Avateur | 11/10/09 3:37 a.m. |
| Re: Heresy! | Narcogen | 11/10/09 4:08 a.m. |
| Re: Heresy! | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 12:26 p.m. |
| 5 minutes to learn, a lifetime to master | RC Master | 11/10/09 9:16 p.m. |
| Re: Heresy! | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:12 a.m. |
| Re: Make Reach (and any new IP) more like Marathon | Bry | 11/10/09 7:18 a.m. |
| Adjustable Auto Aim | ManKitten | 11/9/09 11:31 p.m. |
| Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | crzymnky069 | 11/9/09 11:49 p.m. |
| Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | urk | 11/10/09 10:32 a.m. |
| Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | ManKitten | 11/10/09 1:17 p.m. |
| Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | Gravemind | 11/11/09 1:00 p.m. |
| Re: Adjustable Auto Aim | RC Master | 11/10/09 9:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | reprobate | 11/10/09 12:26 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/10/09 12:35 a.m. |
| First Person View! | Cody Moore | 11/10/09 1:14 a.m. |
| Re: First Person View! | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:23 a.m. |
| Third Person View! | Narcogen | 11/10/09 3:37 a.m. |
| Re: Third Person View! | bluerunner | 11/10/09 9:27 a.m. |
| Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 2:05 p.m. |
| Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 2:59 p.m. |
| Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | Hedgemony | 11/10/09 4:35 p.m. |
| Re: Third Person View! Longish rant... | General Vagueness | 11/10/09 4:06 p.m. |
| Re: Third Person View! | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:28 p.m. |
| Re: First Person View! | ArteenEsben | 11/10/09 10:51 a.m. |
| Re: First Person View! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/10/09 10:58 a.m. |
| Re: First Person View! | ArteenEsben | 11/10/09 11:20 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:08 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bungiez | 11/10/09 1:09 a.m. |
| i wanna say this is kp *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 11/10/09 2:39 a.m. |
| Re: i wanna say this is kp | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 8:30 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Someone | 11/10/09 2:10 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/10/09 5:17 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bernard Strauss | 11/10/09 4:12 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/10/09 5:04 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | DrDoctor | 11/10/09 2:14 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/10/09 5:35 a.m. |
| Wort wort wort | Cody Moore | 11/10/09 6:05 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | hyokin | 11/10/09 10:25 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 10:44 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | c0ld vengeance | 11/10/09 12:36 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Arkesane | 11/10/09 12:47 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | padraig08 | 11/10/09 1:02 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Avateur | 11/10/09 12:47 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | c0ld vengeance | 11/10/09 12:52 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | bluerunner | 11/10/09 1:01 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 1:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | FyreWulff | 11/10/09 5:12 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach/Barrier Rant | psychophan7 | 11/10/09 2:02 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | urk | 11/10/09 10:43 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/10/09 10:45 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/10/09 10:54 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 12:44 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:20 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/10/09 3:30 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/10/09 10:48 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/10/09 11:23 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | padraig08 | 11/10/09 1:20 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/11/09 8:34 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/11/09 8:44 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/11/09 9:58 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/11/09 9:59 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/11/09 10:20 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/11/09 12:47 p.m. |
| •No barriers or kill zones anywhere in the game. | c0ld vengeance | 11/10/09 12:03 p.m. |
| Wow, beat me to it. | profhalo | 11/10/09 1:13 p.m. |
| Re: Wow, beat me to it. | Cody Moore | 11/10/09 4:59 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/10/09 1:26 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Matt | 11/10/09 3:44 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/10/09 3:50 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | SonofMacPhisto | 11/10/09 4:26 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/10/09 4:39 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | nash--housewares | 11/10/09 4:50 p.m. |
| At-least-semi-valid jackassery. *NM* | Eiii | 11/10/09 7:11 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | ManKitten | 11/10/09 8:37 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:24 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Matt | 11/11/09 12:04 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/11/09 12:36 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/11/09 1:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ducain | 11/11/09 1:28 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | ManKitten | 11/11/09 1:29 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 10:37 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hedgemony | 11/11/09 10:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Matt | 11/11/09 2:11 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/11/09 3:12 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/11/09 3:46 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/11/09 3:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/11/09 10:43 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hawaiian Pig | 11/12/09 3:16 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/12/09 3:39 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/12/09 4:55 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/12/09 12:38 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/12/09 12:45 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/12/09 12:54 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/12/09 1:05 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/12/09 1:22 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:20 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/13/09 2:54 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 4:16 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/13/09 2:53 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Mercury | 11/13/09 4:03 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/13/09 11:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/14/09 12:57 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/12/09 2:24 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hedgemony | 11/12/09 4:47 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Hunt3r | 11/12/09 5:06 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:16 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:31 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:41 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Mercury | 11/13/09 3:49 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 10:31 p.m. |
| Tips for arguments. | Mercury | 11/12/09 5:41 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for arguments. | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:29 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for arguments. | Mercury | 11/13/09 3:35 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/12/09 6:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:35 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/13/09 5:56 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 8:36 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/13/09 10:59 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/14/09 1:03 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 2:39 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/14/09 4:02 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 1:47 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/14/09 2:43 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/14/09 3:58 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 4:26 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/14/09 5:13 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/14/09 5:38 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Vincent | 11/14/09 5:49 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/14/09 7:14 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Louis Wu | 11/14/09 7:19 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | RC Master | 11/14/09 11:56 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/14/09 12:36 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:28 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | elessar787 | 11/13/09 1:39 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Leviathan | 11/12/09 6:29 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Bry | 11/12/09 1:24 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Captain Spark | 11/12/09 1:25 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/13/09 8:11 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 11/13/09 8:26 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/12/09 9:48 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/12/09 11:09 a.m. |
| "Accessable hardcore games." | Gravemind | 11/12/09 8:29 p.m. |
| Re: "Accessable hardcore games." | scarab | 11/13/09 5:16 a.m. |
| Re: "Accessable hardcore games." | Gravemind | 11/13/09 12:30 p.m. |
| Re: "Accessable hardcore games." | scarab | 11/13/09 2:23 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/12/09 9:46 a.m. |
| Pure Win, As Usual *NM* | Narcogen | 11/11/09 12:22 a.m. |
| Two things | rhubarb | 11/10/09 7:34 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Gravemind | 11/11/09 2:19 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Gravemind | 11/12/09 12:52 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ducain | 11/12/09 10:30 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | General Vagueness | 11/12/09 11:05 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Mirel | 11/12/09 12:06 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ducain | 11/12/09 1:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | zofinda | 11/12/09 1:27 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | DarkS7G | 11/12/09 1:54 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Mirel | 11/12/09 3:08 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Metalingus627 | 11/12/09 3:25 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/13/09 1:53 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | scarab | 11/13/09 5:56 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 2:26 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 2:38 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 2:48 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 12:03 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Leviathan | 11/16/09 3:16 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 6:11 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 11:55 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ibeechu | 11/16/09 12:19 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Ibeechu | 11/16/09 12:21 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Dani | 11/16/09 12:27 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 12:35 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Dani | 11/16/09 12:43 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 2:18 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | psychophan7 | 11/16/09 3:01 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/16/09 2:16 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 2:24 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/16/09 9:04 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/16/09 9:56 p.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Narcogen | 11/17/09 5:30 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | Cody Miller | 11/17/09 12:45 p.m. |
| Framerate and buying habits | Narcogen | 11/18/09 5:51 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | sorahn | 11/17/09 1:59 a.m. |
| 60 seems unreal anyway. Keep it 45 if you ask me | Mirel | 11/16/09 3:19 a.m. |
| Bad idea | Narcogen | 11/16/09 6:08 a.m. |
| Re: Tips for Reach | FyreWulff | 11/16/09 6:54 a.m. |
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