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Re: this
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 1/12/12 5:00 p.m.

In Response To: Re: this (Stephen L. (SoundEffect))


: The Master Chief's first encounter with an Elite was on Gamma Station during
: the fall or Reach. That was 2-3 weeks prior to the events of Halo 1. (and
: most of the intervening time was Slipspace travel between).

: The games take place after the fall of Reach, so yes, Elites are prevalent in
: the games. No Brutes though because they were introduced as the Honor
: Guard for Prophets and high security facilities like the Unyielding
: Hierophant, which explains their absence in Halo 1.

: The Elites weren't 'all over' Reach, no.

OK but when did it say the Elites were first encountered?

: It was best described in the beginning of The Flood novel. I'll quote a small
: passage: "However, none of these things were at the forefront of
: Ship Master Orna ’Fulsamee’s mind as he stood at the center of his
: destroyer’s control room and stared at the data projections which appeared
: to float in front of him. One showed the ring world, Halo. Near that, a
: tiny arrow tracked the interloper’s course. The second projection
: displayed a schematic titled HUMAN ATTACK SHIP, TYPE C-11. A third
: scrolled a constant flow of targeting data and sensor readouts.

: He fought a moment of revulsion. That these filthy primates somehow merited
: an actual name—let alone names for their inferior constructs—galled him to
: his core. It was perverse. Names implied legitimacy, and the vermin
: deserved only extermination. The humans had “names” for his own
: kind—“Elites”—as well as the lesser races of the Covenant: “Jackals,”
: “Grunts,” “Hunters.” The appalling temerity of the filthy creatures, that
: they would dare name his people with their harsh, barbaric tongue, was
: beyond the pale. He paused, and regained his composure."

: This was some of the justification that Elites hadn't been seen prior to
: Reach. Humans were vermin to be ground under, not really true
: lifeforms...certainly not personally worthy of the attention of an
: honorable race such as the Sangheili.

: I can see the Elites (as the military arm of the Covenant) using the Grunts
: and Jackals as ground teams (as we witnessed in The Fall of Reach) both on
: Lambda Serpentis and Sigma Octanus.

: I see that the rise of the "Demons" in more and more successful
: ground engagements (and in fact having killed perhaps the first
: human-encountered Hunters on Sigma Octanus) made the stakes high enough to
: warrant the inclusion of Elite ground commanders at Reach, and of course
: something more highly prized, the Halo ring.

: This is extrapolation on what we were given in the first two novels and the
: first game.

but then why were they all over in Halo 2?

You cannot fall off the floor.



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