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Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts
Posted By: LuronoDate: 12/7/11 11:39 p.m.

In Response To: Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts (Avateur)


: When you say Halo products, are you referring to the game? I'm talking more
: about the marketing, saying one thing and doing another, etc. I'm talking
: things like Bungie's ODST reveal, cut off practically right when it was
: set to be revealed because Microsoft decided it didn't want Bungie to do
: it right then (but of course couldn't tell them no until nearly right
: before the countdown was supposed to end). I'm talking that kind of
: garbage. I'm not saying Halo 4's going to automatically blow or anything
: (though its marketing and PR might be a total joke, but who knows).

: Take everything I just said above and add it to the other posts on how the
: Halo Encyclopedia was handled, or how everything seems to be "just
: good enough" when released and can always be "fixed" later
: if busted. Or take a look at Apt. 117. Can you believe that thing was
: actually a real thought, and did you see how vigorously 343 Industries
: attempted to defend it on this very forum? Glad that thing died.

: This doesn't discount how awesome things like Legends, the novels, or future
: Halo endeavors might be. But there are plenty of poor examples of
: Microsoft and 343 Industries doing things that aren't exactly
: praise-worthy (and in 343's case, since they haven't been around that
: long, that's clearly not being perceived as a good thing by many people
: including me). Luckily for me, I put more stock into their successes and
: vigorously bash the perceived failures so that they continue to have MORE
: successes later. I really, really want Halo 4 to rock.

Now THAT makes more sense.

The whole argument I've been making is that the various Halo products (games, videos, books, comics, etc.) are usually good products, at least in my eyes, and I was trying to figure out what rhubarb felt was so bad.

I agree that blunders like the ODST reveal and 343i's recent handling of the TU don't reflect well on Microsoft/343i. I also put more stock in their successes, and I feel that those successes far outweigh their failures.

/And yeah, I agree with your thoughts on Apt. 117; I really didn't care for it. I didn't think it was funny and really prefer it if 343i focuses on the actual in-universe aspects of Halo.


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Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/4/11 10:01 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/4/11 10:10 p.m.
           YesAvateur 12/4/11 10:36 p.m.
                 Re: YesSpec ops Grunt 12/4/11 10:46 p.m.
                 Re: Yesrukizzel 12/4/11 10:48 p.m.
                       Re: YesAvateur 12/4/11 10:57 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iuberfoop 12/4/11 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/4/11 10:32 p.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/4/11 10:42 p.m.
                       Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iAvateur 12/4/11 11:03 p.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/4/11 11:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iAvateur 12/4/11 11:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iPhoenix_9286 12/4/11 11:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/5/11 12:09 a.m.
                                               Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/5/11 12:32 a.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/4/11 11:52 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/4/11 11:43 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHoovaloov 12/6/11 8:13 a.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/6/11 8:21 a.m.
                       Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHoovaloov 12/6/11 8:30 a.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/7/11 10:39 a.m.
                                   Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iLouis Wu 12/7/11 10:57 a.m.
                                         Not saying a lot, but...katancik 12/7/11 11:02 a.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/7/11 11:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHoovaloov 12/8/11 1:09 a.m.
                                                     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iJoony Joon 12/8/11 8:09 a.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iBeckx 12/7/11 11:12 a.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iDEEP NNN 12/7/11 1:03 p.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iAvateur 12/7/11 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHyokin 12/6/11 1:49 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHyokin 12/5/11 12:12 a.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/5/11 12:37 a.m.
                 LOVED CRYPTUM *NM*kidtsunami 12/5/11 1:12 a.m.
           What have you read post GoO and CH? *NM*Lurono 12/5/11 2:52 a.m.
                 Re: What have you read post GoO and CH?Mid7night 12/5/11 12:03 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iDEEP NNN 12/5/11 6:25 a.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iBry 12/5/11 6:57 a.m.
     I'll bring up one point...RC Master 12/5/11 7:49 a.m.
           Re: I'll bring up one point...Revenant1988 12/5/11 9:22 a.m.
           Can we agree?Miguel Chavez 12/5/11 1:42 p.m.
                 Re: Can we agree?uberfoop 12/5/11 1:50 p.m.
                       Re: Can we agree?Miguel Chavez 12/5/11 6:54 p.m.
                             Re: Can we agree?uberfoop 12/5/11 7:49 p.m.
                                   Re: Can we agree?Kermit 12/5/11 9:09 p.m.
                 Re: Can we agree?RC Master 12/5/11 7:30 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHedgemony 12/5/11 8:06 a.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iDEEP NNN 12/5/11 9:33 a.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHedgemony 12/5/11 9:52 a.m.
           Hedgemony does not comment on rumor or speculationLostSpartan987 12/5/11 3:23 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/5/11 4:17 p.m.
                 Re: Bingo. *NM*Hedgemony 12/5/11 4:30 p.m.
                       (:Spec ops Grunt 12/6/11 1:02 a.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSonofMacPhisto 12/5/11 4:04 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343ibluerunner 12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSonofMacPhisto 12/5/11 4:44 p.m.
                       Re: Too early for an opinion on 343ibluerunner 12/5/11 5:04 p.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSonofMacPhisto 12/5/11 9:03 p.m.
           If you want to reference something, do it right...Lurono 12/5/11 9:24 p.m.
                 Re: If you want to reference something, do it righSonofMacPhisto 12/6/11 12:04 a.m.
     It's a death by a thousand cutsrhubarb 12/5/11 8:53 p.m.
           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/5/11 9:26 p.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/5/11 9:33 p.m.
                       Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/5/11 11:32 p.m.
                             Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/6/11 11:14 a.m.
                                   Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/7/11 5:10 a.m.
                                         Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/7/11 2:54 p.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsArithmomaniac 12/7/11 2:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/7/11 3:04 p.m.
                                                           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLouis Wu 12/7/11 4:13 p.m.
                                                                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/7/11 5:03 p.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/7/11 11:39 p.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsrhubarb 12/5/11 9:44 p.m.
                       Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/5/11 11:47 p.m.
                             Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsrhubarb 12/6/11 12:43 a.m.
                                   Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/6/11 1:22 a.m.
                                   Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLouis Wu 12/6/11 7:04 a.m.
                                         Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/6/11 7:59 a.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLouis Wu 12/6/11 9:03 a.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsDEEP NNN 12/6/11 10:06 a.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsMiguel Chavez 12/6/11 12:50 p.m.
                                                     You're right, Mig.Kermit 12/6/11 1:36 p.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsBry 12/6/11 5:06 p.m.
                                                     Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/6/11 6:00 p.m.
                                                           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsBry 12/6/11 6:40 p.m.
                                         Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsQuirel 12/6/11 11:28 a.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsSonofMacPhisto 12/6/11 12:06 a.m.
           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsSpec ops Grunt 12/6/11 1:04 a.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsRC Master 12/6/11 6:44 a.m.
                       Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsSpec ops Grunt 12/6/11 1:39 p.m.
     My opinions are mixed.Gravemind 12/5/11 9:07 p.m.
           Re: My opinions are mixed.Lurono 12/5/11 9:38 p.m.



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