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Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts
Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com>Date: 12/7/11 5:03 p.m.

In Response To: Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts (Louis Wu)


: It didn't suck. You didn't like it. Those are different.

I'd argue that the majority of people didn't like it because they thought it sucked as well, which is why we never saw it again, but yeah, you're right.

: It wasn't garbage, and they didn't spend a huge amount of resources they
: could have been spending elsewhere to bring it to you. It was fun, and had
: it come from, say, Newgrounds, it would have been praised.

Not so sure about that. It was pretty awful (my opinion), just like a lot of other content on the internet.

: And the debacle, as you call it, had plenty of blame to go around - it wasn't
: purely MS's fault. Since neither party is actually willing to speak
: publicly about this, though, I guess you're welcome to continue making
: wild assumptions.

I'm more willing to give Bungie the beneift of the doubt under the circumstances made available to the public than Microsoft.

: I'm a Bungie fan - but my eyes are open enough to realize that they make
: mistakes, too - not everything that doesn't work out can be blamed on
: others.

I've had plenty of my own issues with Bungie, plenty misguided, plenty legitimate, and almost all voiced at HBO. That doesn't change the fact that Microsoft hasn't exactly been the most exciting prospect of a publisher over the years that, beyond Bungie, has had negative impacts on other game studios as well (the same argument can be made about Activision, EA, etc). I like the idea of an independent Bungie with Activision pretty much letting them call the shots on what they release and letting them own their content. 343 Industries can't say the same. Couple that with how "new" they are and how almost everything that's been released has been "outsourced" to other companies, their reputation at the moment is going to be based on said outsourced successes and failures like Halo Legends, Apt. 117, or even H1A.


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Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/4/11 10:01 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/4/11 10:10 p.m.
           YesAvateur 12/4/11 10:36 p.m.
                 Re: YesSpec ops Grunt 12/4/11 10:46 p.m.
                 Re: Yesrukizzel 12/4/11 10:48 p.m.
                       Re: YesAvateur 12/4/11 10:57 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iuberfoop 12/4/11 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/4/11 10:32 p.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/4/11 10:42 p.m.
                       Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iAvateur 12/4/11 11:03 p.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/4/11 11:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iAvateur 12/4/11 11:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iPhoenix_9286 12/4/11 11:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343irukizzel 12/5/11 12:09 a.m.
                                               Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/5/11 12:32 a.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/4/11 11:52 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/4/11 11:43 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHoovaloov 12/6/11 8:13 a.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/6/11 8:21 a.m.
                       Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHoovaloov 12/6/11 8:30 a.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/7/11 10:39 a.m.
                                   Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iLouis Wu 12/7/11 10:57 a.m.
                                         Not saying a lot, but...katancik 12/7/11 11:02 a.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iFyreWulff 12/7/11 11:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHoovaloov 12/8/11 1:09 a.m.
                                                     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iJoony Joon 12/8/11 8:09 a.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iBeckx 12/7/11 11:12 a.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iDEEP NNN 12/7/11 1:03 p.m.
                                         Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iAvateur 12/7/11 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHyokin 12/6/11 1:49 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHyokin 12/5/11 12:12 a.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/5/11 12:37 a.m.
                 LOVED CRYPTUM *NM*kidtsunami 12/5/11 1:12 a.m.
           What have you read post GoO and CH? *NM*Lurono 12/5/11 2:52 a.m.
                 Re: What have you read post GoO and CH?Mid7night 12/5/11 12:03 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iDEEP NNN 12/5/11 6:25 a.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iBry 12/5/11 6:57 a.m.
     I'll bring up one point...RC Master 12/5/11 7:49 a.m.
           Re: I'll bring up one point...Revenant1988 12/5/11 9:22 a.m.
           Can we agree?Miguel Chavez 12/5/11 1:42 p.m.
                 Re: Can we agree?uberfoop 12/5/11 1:50 p.m.
                       Re: Can we agree?Miguel Chavez 12/5/11 6:54 p.m.
                             Re: Can we agree?uberfoop 12/5/11 7:49 p.m.
                                   Re: Can we agree?Kermit 12/5/11 9:09 p.m.
                 Re: Can we agree?RC Master 12/5/11 7:30 p.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHedgemony 12/5/11 8:06 a.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iDEEP NNN 12/5/11 9:33 a.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iHedgemony 12/5/11 9:52 a.m.
           Hedgemony does not comment on rumor or speculationLostSpartan987 12/5/11 3:23 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSpec ops Grunt 12/5/11 4:17 p.m.
                 Re: Bingo. *NM*Hedgemony 12/5/11 4:30 p.m.
                       (:Spec ops Grunt 12/6/11 1:02 a.m.
     Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSonofMacPhisto 12/5/11 4:04 p.m.
           Re: Too early for an opinion on 343ibluerunner 12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSonofMacPhisto 12/5/11 4:44 p.m.
                       Re: Too early for an opinion on 343ibluerunner 12/5/11 5:04 p.m.
                             Re: Too early for an opinion on 343iSonofMacPhisto 12/5/11 9:03 p.m.
           If you want to reference something, do it right...Lurono 12/5/11 9:24 p.m.
                 Re: If you want to reference something, do it righSonofMacPhisto 12/6/11 12:04 a.m.
     It's a death by a thousand cutsrhubarb 12/5/11 8:53 p.m.
           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/5/11 9:26 p.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/5/11 9:33 p.m.
                       Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/5/11 11:32 p.m.
                             Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/6/11 11:14 a.m.
                                   Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/7/11 5:10 a.m.
                                         Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/7/11 2:54 p.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsArithmomaniac 12/7/11 2:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/7/11 3:04 p.m.
                                                           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLouis Wu 12/7/11 4:13 p.m.
                                                                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsAvateur 12/7/11 5:03 p.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/7/11 11:39 p.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsrhubarb 12/5/11 9:44 p.m.
                       Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/5/11 11:47 p.m.
                             Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsrhubarb 12/6/11 12:43 a.m.
                                   Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLurono 12/6/11 1:22 a.m.
                                   Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLouis Wu 12/6/11 7:04 a.m.
                                         Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/6/11 7:59 a.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsLouis Wu 12/6/11 9:03 a.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsDEEP NNN 12/6/11 10:06 a.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsMiguel Chavez 12/6/11 12:50 p.m.
                                                     You're right, Mig.Kermit 12/6/11 1:36 p.m.
                                               Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsBry 12/6/11 5:06 p.m.
                                                     Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/6/11 6:00 p.m.
                                                           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsBry 12/6/11 6:40 p.m.
                                         Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsQuirel 12/6/11 11:28 a.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsSonofMacPhisto 12/6/11 12:06 a.m.
           Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsSpec ops Grunt 12/6/11 1:04 a.m.
                 Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsRC Master 12/6/11 6:44 a.m.
                       Re: It's a death by a thousand cutsSpec ops Grunt 12/6/11 1:39 p.m.
     My opinions are mixed.Gravemind 12/5/11 9:07 p.m.
           Re: My opinions are mixed.Lurono 12/5/11 9:38 p.m.



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