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Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts
Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com>	Date: 12/7/11 2:54 p.m.
In Response To: Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts (Lurono) : I think I see the disconnect here. : You're saying that we can expect to see the same "garbage" and I : don't really consider the majority of the Halo products I've purchased : "garbage." When you say Halo products, are you referring to the game? I'm talking more about the marketing, saying one thing and doing another, etc. I'm talking things like Bungie's ODST reveal, cut off practically right when it was set to be revealed because Microsoft decided it didn't want Bungie to do it right then (but of course couldn't tell them no until nearly right before the countdown was supposed to end). I'm talking that kind of garbage. I'm not saying Halo 4's going to automatically blow or anything (though its marketing and PR might be a total joke, but who knows). Take everything I just said above and add it to the other posts on how the Halo Encyclopedia was handled, or how everything seems to be "just good enough" when released and can always be "fixed" later if busted. Or take a look at Apt. 117. Can you believe that thing was actually a real thought, and did you see how vigorously 343 Industries attempted to defend it on this very forum? Glad that thing died. This doesn't discount how awesome things like Legends, the novels, or future Halo endeavors might be. But there are plenty of poor examples of Microsoft and 343 Industries doing things that aren't exactly praise-worthy (and in 343's case, since they haven't been around that long, that's clearly not being perceived as a good thing by many people including me). Luckily for me, I put more stock into their successes and vigorously bash the perceived failures so that they continue to have MORE successes later. I really, really want Halo 4 to rock.

Message Index

Too early for an opinion on 343i	Spec ops Grunt	12/4/11 10:01 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	rukizzel	12/4/11 10:10 p.m.
Yes	Avateur	12/4/11 10:36 p.m.
Re: Yes	Spec ops Grunt	12/4/11 10:46 p.m.
Re: Yes	rukizzel	12/4/11 10:48 p.m.
Re: Yes	Avateur	12/4/11 10:57 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	uberfoop	12/4/11 10:14 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Spec ops Grunt	12/4/11 10:32 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	rukizzel	12/4/11 10:42 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Avateur	12/4/11 11:03 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	rukizzel	12/4/11 11:21 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Avateur	12/4/11 11:52 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Phoenix_9286	12/4/11 11:54 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	rukizzel	12/5/11 12:09 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Spec ops Grunt	12/5/11 12:32 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	FyreWulff	12/4/11 11:52 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	FyreWulff	12/4/11 11:43 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hoovaloov	12/6/11 8:13 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	FyreWulff	12/6/11 8:21 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hoovaloov	12/6/11 8:30 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	FyreWulff	12/7/11 10:39 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Louis Wu	12/7/11 10:57 a.m.
Not saying a lot, but...	katancik	12/7/11 11:02 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	FyreWulff	12/7/11 11:12 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hoovaloov	12/8/11 1:09 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Joony Joon	12/8/11 8:09 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Beckx	12/7/11 11:12 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	DEEP NNN	12/7/11 1:03 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Avateur	12/7/11 2:59 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hyokin	12/6/11 1:49 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hyokin	12/5/11 12:12 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Spec ops Grunt	12/5/11 12:37 a.m.
LOVED CRYPTUM *NM*	kidtsunami	12/5/11 1:12 a.m.
What have you read post GoO and CH? *NM*	Lurono	12/5/11 2:52 a.m.
Re: What have you read post GoO and CH?	Mid7night	12/5/11 12:03 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	DEEP NNN	12/5/11 6:25 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Bry	12/5/11 6:57 a.m.
I'll bring up one point...	RC Master	12/5/11 7:49 a.m.
Re: I'll bring up one point...	Revenant1988	12/5/11 9:22 a.m.
Can we agree?	Miguel Chavez	12/5/11 1:42 p.m.
Re: Can we agree?	uberfoop	12/5/11 1:50 p.m.
Re: Can we agree?	Miguel Chavez	12/5/11 6:54 p.m.
Re: Can we agree?	uberfoop	12/5/11 7:49 p.m.
Re: Can we agree?	Kermit	12/5/11 9:09 p.m.
Re: Can we agree?	RC Master	12/5/11 7:30 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hedgemony	12/5/11 8:06 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	DEEP NNN	12/5/11 9:33 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Hedgemony	12/5/11 9:52 a.m.
Hedgemony does not comment on rumor or speculation	LostSpartan987	12/5/11 3:23 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	Spec ops Grunt	12/5/11 4:17 p.m.
Re: Bingo. *NM*	Hedgemony	12/5/11 4:30 p.m.
(:	Spec ops Grunt	12/6/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	SonofMacPhisto	12/5/11 4:04 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	bluerunner	12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	SonofMacPhisto	12/5/11 4:44 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	bluerunner	12/5/11 5:04 p.m.
Re: Too early for an opinion on 343i	SonofMacPhisto	12/5/11 9:03 p.m.
If you want to reference something, do it right...	Lurono	12/5/11 9:24 p.m.
Re: If you want to reference something, do it righ	SonofMacPhisto	12/6/11 12:04 a.m.
It's a death by a thousand cuts	rhubarb	12/5/11 8:53 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Lurono	12/5/11 9:26 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Avateur	12/5/11 9:33 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Lurono	12/5/11 11:32 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Avateur	12/6/11 11:14 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Lurono	12/7/11 5:10 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Avateur	12/7/11 2:54 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Arithmomaniac	12/7/11 2:59 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Avateur	12/7/11 3:04 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Louis Wu	12/7/11 4:13 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Avateur	12/7/11 5:03 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Lurono	12/7/11 11:39 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	rhubarb	12/5/11 9:44 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Lurono	12/5/11 11:47 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	rhubarb	12/6/11 12:43 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Lurono	12/6/11 1:22 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Louis Wu	12/6/11 7:04 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	12/6/11 7:59 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Louis Wu	12/6/11 9:03 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	DEEP NNN	12/6/11 10:06 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Miguel Chavez	12/6/11 12:50 p.m.
You're right, Mig.	Kermit	12/6/11 1:36 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Bry	12/6/11 5:06 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	12/6/11 6:00 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Bry	12/6/11 6:40 p.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Quirel	12/6/11 11:28 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	SonofMacPhisto	12/6/11 12:06 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Spec ops Grunt	12/6/11 1:04 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	RC Master	12/6/11 6:44 a.m.
Re: It's a death by a thousand cuts	Spec ops Grunt	12/6/11 1:39 p.m.
My opinions are mixed.	Gravemind	12/5/11 9:07 p.m.
Re: My opinions are mixed.	Lurono	12/5/11 9:38 p.m.