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we'll have to hedge it
Posted By: kidtsunami <davidandrewhelmer@gmail.com>Date: 12/4/11 6:46 p.m.

In Response To: Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment (uberfoop)


and agree to disagree. I think that you're right and that human error is often time the most important differentiation in live sports. I just also think that games that completely eliminate the "gambling" that I believe is inherent is most live sports games, lose some of the soul that makes these games great.

While the effect of "bloom" on a lacrosse player's shot is obviously dependent on their skill, every player still gambles in his head every time he decides how much time he'll take to shoot and how that will affect his accuracy. It is awesome to consider all the pro's and con's when you shoot, it's exhilarating and something I feel is a core part of sport. I feel the bloom they've implemented appropriately adds that feeling/concept into the sandbox.

Lastly, I've yet to see anything where someone has shown a video of this imbalance affecting the outcome of a game. That would be a critical part of this argument, however all of this is based off of feeling. The burden of proof is on the accusers and I would love to see a montage of some pro getting trounced by people getting a lucky bloom spam shot.

After your next response, I'll probably cut it out, because while this back and forth has been civil and actually pretty great on both sides, I understand that it's best for the forum for this to go quiet soon.


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MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?RVideo 12/2/11 7:45 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/2/11 8:18 p.m.
           Whoa now!!!bryan newman 12/2/11 8:57 p.m.
                 Re: Whoa now!!!JDQuackers 12/2/11 9:32 p.m.
                       Re: Whoa now!!!bryan newman 12/3/11 12:24 a.m.
                             Re: Whoa now!!!RVideo 12/3/11 1:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Whoa now!!!Bryan Newman 12/3/11 4:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Whoa now!!!Bry 12/3/11 5:06 p.m.
                                               Not quite trueBryan newman 12/3/11 5:41 p.m.
                                                     Re: Not quite trueBry 12/3/11 6:38 p.m.
                                                           That really depends.uberfoop 12/3/11 6:46 p.m.
                                                                 Err, wait.uberfoop 12/3/11 6:48 p.m.
                                                           MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 7:42 p.m.
                                                                 "Casual Weapons"Spec ops Grunt 12/3/11 8:07 p.m.
                                                                       I'm not trying to be insulting.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:29 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 8:33 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:41 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 8:45 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:47 p.m.
                                                                                         Pro = paid. Amateur = not paid.Gravemind 12/5/11 4:12 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.Bry 12/3/11 9:12 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                               OopsSonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 10:24 p.m.
                                                                                         It's my gamerzone...RC Master 12/4/11 8:10 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: It's my gamerzone...Bry 12/4/11 9:57 a.m.
                                                                 Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bry 12/3/11 8:24 p.m.
                                                                       Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 8:32 p.m.
                                                                       Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:38 p.m.
                                                                             Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bry 12/3/11 9:06 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 9:21 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Leviathan 12/3/11 9:39 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 9:56 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Leviathan 12/3/11 10:09 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.uberfoop 12/3/11 10:44 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.ZaneZavin 12/4/11 2:50 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bryan Newman 12/4/11 10:03 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.ZaneZavin 12/4/11 10:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bryan newman 12/4/11 12:21 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bry 12/3/11 10:02 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Hey NewmanHedgemony 12/3/11 9:43 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Hey Newmanbryan newman 12/3/11 9:53 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Hey NewmanHedgemony 12/3/11 10:14 p.m.
                                                                                   MLG: Hire Hedge.Leviathan 12/3/11 10:29 p.m.
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                                                                                               Sourcedpadraig08 12/4/11 2:13 p.m.
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                             Re: Whoa now!!!JDQuackers 12/3/11 7:37 a.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?davidfuchs 12/2/11 9:13 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SIX min WHISTLE 12/2/11 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Azo 'Galvat 12/3/11 12:11 a.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Pkmnrulz240 12/2/11 9:27 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?DEEP NNN 12/2/11 9:42 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/2/11 9:53 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SonGoharotto 12/2/11 10:30 p.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?DEEP NNN 12/3/11 5:54 a.m.
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                                         Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?DEEP NNN 12/3/11 2:40 p.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?JDQuackers 12/3/11 7:49 a.m.
                                   Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 11:00 a.m.
                                         Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?JDQuackers 12/3/11 5:26 p.m.
                                         Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/3/11 8:11 p.m.
                                               Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Flynn J Taggart 12/4/11 5:24 a.m.
                                                     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/4/11 2:20 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/2/11 9:50 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?davidfuchs 12/2/11 10:26 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?urk 12/3/11 1:13 a.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 1:45 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?urk 12/3/11 10:19 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Azo 'Galvat 12/3/11 10:31 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 11:30 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?padraig08 12/3/11 2:32 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/3/11 2:15 a.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?FyreWulff 12/3/11 4:25 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?GhaleonEB 12/3/11 8:11 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?FyreWulff 12/3/11 8:36 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 10:44 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Joony Joon 12/3/11 11:38 a.m.
                                   exactlykidtsunami 12/4/11 4:26 p.m.
                                         Re: exactlyuberfoop 12/4/11 4:51 p.m.
                                               I think that it's a systematic adjustmentkidtsunami 12/4/11 5:23 p.m.
                                                     Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentuberfoop 12/4/11 5:44 p.m.
                                                           Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentkidtsunami 12/4/11 5:55 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentuberfoop 12/4/11 6:27 p.m.
                                                                       we'll have to hedge itkidtsunami 12/4/11 6:46 p.m.
                                                                             Re: we'll have to hedge ituberfoop 12/4/11 7:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/4/11 7:13 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentuberfoop 12/4/11 7:31 p.m.
                                               I forgot to saykidtsunami 12/4/11 5:24 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Overdoziz 12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Pkmnrulz240 12/2/11 11:41 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Leviathan 12/3/11 12:28 a.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?bluerunner 12/3/11 2:26 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 10:20 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?ArteenEsben 12/4/11 6:50 a.m.
                                   Twilight Sparkle?RC Master 12/4/11 8:40 a.m.
                                         Re: Twilight Sparkle?Ibeechu 12/4/11 9:07 a.m.
                                               Horsemeat? *NM*Quirel 12/4/11 10:08 a.m.
                                               Re: Twilight Sparkle?Leviathan 12/4/11 12:06 p.m.
                                                     =Othebruce0 12/4/11 6:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: =OLeviathan 12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
                                                     O_OHotIcePhoenix 12/4/11 11:19 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Quirel 12/3/11 1:02 a.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 11:08 a.m.
     Adding my vote to the "Don't Care" column. *NM*Phoenix_9286 12/2/11 11:15 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Flynn J Taggart 12/3/11 1:54 a.m.
     So I watched quite a bit...RC Master 12/3/11 5:52 a.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?NartFOpc 12/3/11 12:23 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Kalamari 12/3/11 2:08 p.m.
     Bloom is not the blue shellkidtsunami 12/4/11 4:47 p.m.



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