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Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?
Posted By: Schooly D <schoolyd@teamschoolyd.org>	Date: 12/3/11 11:00 a.m.
In Response To: Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road? (JDQuackers) : Why is there a need to blame Bungie for that? Bungie should be lauded for : delivering a game that's fun, yet customizable enough to suit almost : anybody's needs. "I don't like MLG because they change things too much and it's like they're playing a different game" "Don't blame MLG for needing to alter the game for competitive play. Blame Bungie for not making default Reach, the one you play, suitable for competitive play." That's the line of argument. That's what "blame Bungie" applies to. : If MLG wants to create their own "more competitive" gametypes and : maps, they are fully enabled to do so. : If pete_the_duck wants to create a pinball machine that you play with a : sniper rifle, or a rock-paper-scissors simulator, he is obviously enabled : to do so. : I think your argument is just a little bit ridiculous that we should be : blaming Bungie for anything. Reach is a FUN game, and that's what I care : about as a gamer. I think people tend to forget how ground-breaking the : Forge and Theater modes are for Halo. They were already impressive in Halo : 3, but then Forge World and the newest gametype customization has just : blown it out of the water. : No other games even come close to matching these amazing features that Bungie : has implemented almost flawlessly. Sure they may have a few limitations, : but what we got is simply amazing. 1) When did anyone ever say anything about Theater mode? How is that even remotely relevant to this discussion? 2) Forge and the various customization options being there isn't the problem. The problem is that default Reach is not suitable for competitive play, thus requiring MLG to make use of Forge to create a game that is very different from what everyone else plays. If Forge and the customization options weren't there, a lot of people would just say "fuck it," admit that the game they're stuck with isn't going to work for competitive play, and drop out. Forge isn't the problem. Default Reach being unsuited for competitive play and thus requiring heavy use of Forge/customization is the problem. : So if MLG doesn't want to play Halo anymore, that's fine. I'd prefer the : competitive tryhards to stay out of my "I'm just trying to relax with : a video game and have some good times" play-style. Maybe that makes : me a "casual gamer", but I don't really care. I play games to : have fun, not to compete and stroke my e-peen. This whole paragraph is the very definition of "tryhard" and a perfect example of e-peen stroking. Shame you don't realize it.

Team Schooly D

Message Index

MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	RVideo	12/2/11 7:45 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/2/11 8:18 p.m.
Whoa now!!!	bryan newman	12/2/11 8:57 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	JDQuackers	12/2/11 9:32 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	bryan newman	12/3/11 12:24 a.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	RVideo	12/3/11 1:05 a.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	Bryan Newman	12/3/11 4:35 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	Bry	12/3/11 5:06 p.m.
Not quite true	Bryan newman	12/3/11 5:41 p.m.
Re: Not quite true	Bry	12/3/11 6:38 p.m.
That really depends.	uberfoop	12/3/11 6:46 p.m.
Err, wait.	uberfoop	12/3/11 6:48 p.m.
MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 7:42 p.m.
"Casual Weapons"	Spec ops Grunt	12/3/11 8:07 p.m.
I'm not trying to be insulting.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:29 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 8:33 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:41 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 8:45 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:47 p.m.
Pro = paid. Amateur = not paid.	Gravemind	12/5/11 4:12 a.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	Bry	12/3/11 9:12 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 10:18 p.m.
Oops	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 10:24 p.m.
It's my gamerzone...	RC Master	12/4/11 8:10 a.m.
Re: It's my gamerzone...	Bry	12/4/11 9:57 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bry	12/3/11 8:24 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 8:32 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:38 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bry	12/3/11 9:06 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 9:21 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Leviathan	12/3/11 9:39 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 9:56 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Leviathan	12/3/11 10:09 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	uberfoop	12/3/11 10:44 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	ZaneZavin	12/4/11 2:50 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bryan Newman	12/4/11 10:03 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	ZaneZavin	12/4/11 10:46 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bryan newman	12/4/11 12:21 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bry	12/3/11 10:02 p.m.
Re: Hey Newman	Hedgemony	12/3/11 9:43 p.m.
Re: Hey Newman	bryan newman	12/3/11 9:53 p.m.
Re: Hey Newman	Hedgemony	12/3/11 10:14 p.m.
MLG: Hire Hedge.	Leviathan	12/3/11 10:29 p.m.
This	padraig08	12/3/11 11:26 p.m.
Re: This	Hyokin	12/4/11 11:10 a.m.
Sourced	padraig08	12/4/11 2:13 p.m.
Re: Sourced	Hyokin	12/4/11 9:10 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	JDQuackers	12/3/11 7:37 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	davidfuchs	12/2/11 9:13 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SIX min WHISTLE	12/2/11 10:21 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Azo 'Galvat	12/3/11 12:11 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Pkmnrulz240	12/2/11 9:27 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	DEEP NNN	12/2/11 9:42 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/2/11 9:53 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SonGoharotto	12/2/11 10:30 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	DEEP NNN	12/3/11 5:54 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 11:15 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	DEEP NNN	12/3/11 2:40 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	JDQuackers	12/3/11 7:49 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 11:00 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	JDQuackers	12/3/11 5:26 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/3/11 8:11 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Flynn J Taggart	12/4/11 5:24 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/4/11 2:20 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/2/11 9:50 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	davidfuchs	12/2/11 10:26 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	urk	12/3/11 1:13 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 1:45 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	urk	12/3/11 10:19 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Azo 'Galvat	12/3/11 10:31 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 11:30 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	padraig08	12/3/11 2:32 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/3/11 2:15 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	FyreWulff	12/3/11 4:25 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	GhaleonEB	12/3/11 8:11 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	FyreWulff	12/3/11 8:36 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 10:44 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Joony Joon	12/3/11 11:38 a.m.
exactly	kidtsunami	12/4/11 4:26 p.m.
Re: exactly	uberfoop	12/4/11 4:51 p.m.
I think that it's a systematic adjustment	kidtsunami	12/4/11 5:23 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	uberfoop	12/4/11 5:44 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	kidtsunami	12/4/11 5:55 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	uberfoop	12/4/11 6:27 p.m.
we'll have to hedge it	kidtsunami	12/4/11 6:46 p.m.
Re: we'll have to hedge it	uberfoop	12/4/11 7:17 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	12/4/11 7:13 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	uberfoop	12/4/11 7:31 p.m.
I forgot to say	kidtsunami	12/4/11 5:24 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Overdoziz	12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Pkmnrulz240	12/2/11 11:41 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Leviathan	12/3/11 12:28 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	bluerunner	12/3/11 2:26 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 10:20 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	ArteenEsben	12/4/11 6:50 a.m.
Twilight Sparkle?	RC Master	12/4/11 8:40 a.m.
Re: Twilight Sparkle?	Ibeechu	12/4/11 9:07 a.m.
Horsemeat? *NM*	Quirel	12/4/11 10:08 a.m.
Re: Twilight Sparkle?	Leviathan	12/4/11 12:06 p.m.
=O	thebruce0	12/4/11 6:47 p.m.
Re: =O	Leviathan	12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
O_O	HotIcePhoenix	12/4/11 11:19 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Quirel	12/3/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 11:08 a.m.
Adding my vote to the "Don't Care" column. *NM*	Phoenix_9286	12/2/11 11:15 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Flynn J Taggart	12/3/11 1:54 a.m.
So I watched quite a bit...	RC Master	12/3/11 5:52 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	NartFOpc	12/3/11 12:23 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Kalamari	12/3/11 2:08 p.m.
Bloom is not the blue shell	kidtsunami	12/4/11 4:47 p.m.