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Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.
Posted By: uberfoop <atkinso2@seattleu.edu>Date: 12/3/11 10:44 p.m.

In Response To: Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk. (Leviathan)


: OK, I think I'm understanding. I don't know what spamming a DMR means
: though... If it's a superior technique, why doesn't the 'best player in
: the world' always use it?

Nobody is arguing that spamming is a superior technique. In face, that newman said "10%" means he recognizes that the person with ideal shot pacing will win the vast majority of the time. However, the point is that someone who paces their shots perfectly versus someone who fires too fast will, depending on the circumstances, still lose a meaningful portion of battles due to chance, since the spammer will occasionally have a higher damage output (since they are firing faster, if they get lucky and do manage to score some hits, they will do more damage). That is, there's a level of uncertainty in it, and it's a level of uncertainty that many pro gamers consider to be too high*.

*Which of course could use a statistical analysis to back it up. A full analysis would be horrifically complicated since there are so many factors that would have to be considered, from cover to range to both firing rates and whatnot, but a simplistic model could at least be a start. Still, it's significant enough to be noticeable, and I think it would be hard to call it negligible.


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MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?RVideo 12/2/11 7:45 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/2/11 8:18 p.m.
           Whoa now!!!bryan newman 12/2/11 8:57 p.m.
                 Re: Whoa now!!!JDQuackers 12/2/11 9:32 p.m.
                       Re: Whoa now!!!bryan newman 12/3/11 12:24 a.m.
                             Re: Whoa now!!!RVideo 12/3/11 1:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Whoa now!!!Bryan Newman 12/3/11 4:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Whoa now!!!Bry 12/3/11 5:06 p.m.
                                               Not quite trueBryan newman 12/3/11 5:41 p.m.
                                                     Re: Not quite trueBry 12/3/11 6:38 p.m.
                                                           That really depends.uberfoop 12/3/11 6:46 p.m.
                                                                 Err, wait.uberfoop 12/3/11 6:48 p.m.
                                                           MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 7:42 p.m.
                                                                 "Casual Weapons"Spec ops Grunt 12/3/11 8:07 p.m.
                                                                       I'm not trying to be insulting.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:29 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 8:33 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:41 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 8:45 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:47 p.m.
                                                                                         Pro = paid. Amateur = not paid.Gravemind 12/5/11 4:12 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.Bry 12/3/11 9:12 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                               OopsSonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 10:24 p.m.
                                                                                         It's my gamerzone...RC Master 12/4/11 8:10 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: It's my gamerzone...Bry 12/4/11 9:57 a.m.
                                                                 Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bry 12/3/11 8:24 p.m.
                                                                       Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 8:32 p.m.
                                                                       Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 8:38 p.m.
                                                                             Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bry 12/3/11 9:06 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 9:21 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Leviathan 12/3/11 9:39 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.bryan newman 12/3/11 9:56 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Leviathan 12/3/11 10:09 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.uberfoop 12/3/11 10:44 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.ZaneZavin 12/4/11 2:50 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bryan Newman 12/4/11 10:03 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.ZaneZavin 12/4/11 10:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bryan newman 12/4/11 12:21 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.Bry 12/3/11 10:02 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Hey NewmanHedgemony 12/3/11 9:43 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Hey Newmanbryan newman 12/3/11 9:53 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Hey NewmanHedgemony 12/3/11 10:14 p.m.
                                                                                   MLG: Hire Hedge.Leviathan 12/3/11 10:29 p.m.
                                                                                   Thispadraig08 12/3/11 11:26 p.m.
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                                                                                               Sourcedpadraig08 12/4/11 2:13 p.m.
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                             Re: Whoa now!!!JDQuackers 12/3/11 7:37 a.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?davidfuchs 12/2/11 9:13 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SIX min WHISTLE 12/2/11 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Azo 'Galvat 12/3/11 12:11 a.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Pkmnrulz240 12/2/11 9:27 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?DEEP NNN 12/2/11 9:42 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/2/11 9:53 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SonGoharotto 12/2/11 10:30 p.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?DEEP NNN 12/3/11 5:54 a.m.
                                   Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 11:15 a.m.
                                         Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?DEEP NNN 12/3/11 2:40 p.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?JDQuackers 12/3/11 7:49 a.m.
                                   Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 11:00 a.m.
                                         Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?JDQuackers 12/3/11 5:26 p.m.
                                         Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/3/11 8:11 p.m.
                                               Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Flynn J Taggart 12/4/11 5:24 a.m.
                                                     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/4/11 2:20 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/2/11 9:50 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?davidfuchs 12/2/11 10:26 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?urk 12/3/11 1:13 a.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 1:45 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?urk 12/3/11 10:19 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Azo 'Galvat 12/3/11 10:31 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 11:30 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?padraig08 12/3/11 2:32 p.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Spec ops Grunt 12/3/11 2:15 a.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?FyreWulff 12/3/11 4:25 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?GhaleonEB 12/3/11 8:11 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?FyreWulff 12/3/11 8:36 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Schooly D 12/3/11 10:44 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Joony Joon 12/3/11 11:38 a.m.
                                   exactlykidtsunami 12/4/11 4:26 p.m.
                                         Re: exactlyuberfoop 12/4/11 4:51 p.m.
                                               I think that it's a systematic adjustmentkidtsunami 12/4/11 5:23 p.m.
                                                     Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentuberfoop 12/4/11 5:44 p.m.
                                                           Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentkidtsunami 12/4/11 5:55 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentuberfoop 12/4/11 6:27 p.m.
                                                                       we'll have to hedge itkidtsunami 12/4/11 6:46 p.m.
                                                                             Re: we'll have to hedge ituberfoop 12/4/11 7:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/4/11 7:13 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustmentuberfoop 12/4/11 7:31 p.m.
                                               I forgot to saykidtsunami 12/4/11 5:24 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Overdoziz 12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Pkmnrulz240 12/2/11 11:41 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Leviathan 12/3/11 12:28 a.m.
                 Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?bluerunner 12/3/11 2:26 a.m.
                       Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 10:20 a.m.
                             Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?ArteenEsben 12/4/11 6:50 a.m.
                                   Twilight Sparkle?RC Master 12/4/11 8:40 a.m.
                                         Re: Twilight Sparkle?Ibeechu 12/4/11 9:07 a.m.
                                               Horsemeat? *NM*Quirel 12/4/11 10:08 a.m.
                                               Re: Twilight Sparkle?Leviathan 12/4/11 12:06 p.m.
                                                     =Othebruce0 12/4/11 6:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: =OLeviathan 12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
                                                     O_OHotIcePhoenix 12/4/11 11:19 p.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Quirel 12/3/11 1:02 a.m.
           Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?SonofMacPhisto 12/3/11 11:08 a.m.
     Adding my vote to the "Don't Care" column. *NM*Phoenix_9286 12/2/11 11:15 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Flynn J Taggart 12/3/11 1:54 a.m.
     So I watched quite a bit...RC Master 12/3/11 5:52 a.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?NartFOpc 12/3/11 12:23 p.m.
     Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?Kalamari 12/3/11 2:08 p.m.
     Bloom is not the blue shellkidtsunami 12/4/11 4:47 p.m.



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