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Re: John 117 < "The Savior"
Posted By: Eagle 117 <Eagle-117@cox.net>Date: 2/25/05 10:43 a.m.

In Response To: John 117 < "The Savior" (Eagle 117)

: I actually don't think John represents the savior of mankind, at least not in
: a Jesus sense. I don't have the Dictionary of Angels with me at the
: moment, but I'll post why, with some info to back it up, later:-)

: - Eagle 117

Basically, without getting too in depth, I see John as possibly having influences from Enoch or Elijah. These are the only two individuals in the Bible who never died. Instead, they transitioned straight to heaven. In Revelation it is told that two prophets will come to Israel in the end times. These two prophets have always been speculated to be Enoch and Elijah since they never died... that's Biblical scholarís work, not mine. Anyways, the Dictionary of Angels tells that both individuals were transformed into angels upon their transfiguration; although, there is a legend that Elijah was an angel from the very beginning. Enoch became Metatron; Elijah became Sandalphone. Both angels are referred to as Angles of the Covenant and Forerunner angels. Metatron is considered to be the link between humans and the divine, whom I laid out to represent the Forerunners in my initial arguments. Blake wrote that Elijah was a composite devil and angel, which fits the profile of the MC... remember, the Covenant refer to him as a him a demon/devil.

There is one other individuals I see to have possible influence on the character development of John. He is the greatest of all angles, Micheal, a.k.a. The Warrior Angel. I donít have time to get into that right now, as there are several interesting similarities between the two, so Iíll post about it later:-)

- Eagle 117


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Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEagle 117 2/21/05 4:54 p.m.
     WhewJillybean 2/21/05 5:00 p.m.
           Re: WhewEagle 117 2/21/05 5:02 p.m.
                 Re: WhewHikaru-119 2/21/05 5:10 p.m.
                       Re: WhewEagle 117 2/22/05 8:00 a.m.
                 Re: WhewFugitiveSoldier 2/21/05 5:10 p.m.
                       The Last Xion -- Would that tie in?Sniper 058 2/21/05 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: WhewMr. Mister 2/21/05 5:21 p.m.
     All I can say is. . . wow.ARCHANGEL 7 2/21/05 5:08 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersoBlade 2/21/05 5:09 p.m.
     Nice ‹ <--Smiley face, look hardEchoes 2/21/05 5:17 p.m.
           Re: Nice ‹ <--Smiley face, look hardEagle 117 2/21/05 7:22 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersPeptuck 2/21/05 5:18 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answersmeleeman 2/21/05 5:26 p.m.
           Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersHikaru-119 2/21/05 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersSniper 058 2/21/05 6:16 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersHikaru-119 2/21/05 7:05 p.m.
                             Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEagle 117 2/21/05 7:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersHikaru-119 2/21/05 7:28 p.m.
           John 117 < "The Savior"Eagle 117 2/22/05 8:27 a.m.
                 Re: John 117 < "The Savior"Eagle 117 2/25/05 10:43 a.m.
                       Re: John 117 < "The Savior"Captain Spark 2/25/05 10:54 a.m.
                             Re: John 117 < "The Savior"Series III (MetalSilver) 2/25/05 10:56 a.m.
                             You should've read before opening your mouthEagle 117 2/25/05 11:15 a.m.
                                   Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCaptain Spark 2/25/05 11:28 a.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthSep7imus [subnova] 2/25/05 11:33 a.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthEagle 117 2/25/05 12:14 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCaptain Spark 2/25/05 3:56 p.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthEagle 117 2/25/05 12:11 p.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthLouis Wu 2/25/05 1:36 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthWalshicus 2/25/05 2:21 p.m.
                                                     Re: You should've read before opening your mouthVorpal Sword 2/25/05 2:31 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthStuntmutt 2/25/05 3:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: You should've read before opening your mouthLouis Wu 2/25/05 3:18 p.m.
                                                           Re: You should've read before opening your mouthWalshicus 2/25/05 3:34 p.m.
                                                                 Re: You should've read before opening your mouthLouis Wu 2/25/05 4:15 p.m.
                                                                 Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCount Zero 2/25/05 5:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: You should've read before opening your mouthWalshicus 2/25/05 6:22 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCaptain Spark 2/25/05 3:54 p.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/25/05 3:18 p.m.
                                               It's funny where these conversations go :-) *NM*Eagle 117 2/25/05 3:47 p.m.
                                                     Yes...Walshicus 2/25/05 3:53 p.m.
                                                           Re: Yes...Eagle 117 2/25/05 4:19 p.m.
     good to hear from you as always eagle :D *NM*Voltage 2/21/05 5:38 p.m.
           It's nice to know I'm remembered :-) *NM*Eagle 117 2/21/05 7:18 p.m.
     *blush* :) *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/21/05 5:44 p.m.
     The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...xitwound117 2/21/05 7:42 p.m.
           Re: The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...spaartan117 2/21/05 8:24 p.m.
           Re: The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...Skedar 2/21/05 8:51 p.m.
                 Re: The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...ErraticAuto 2/22/05 3:41 a.m.
     Very Nice. Well Written! *NM*Steve 2/21/05 9:20 p.m.
     Dude, you are AWESOME *nm*dude1 2/22/05 4:12 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEric Trautmann 2/22/05 7:17 p.m.
           Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answersdude1 2/22/05 7:58 p.m.
           Thanks for the response, Trautmann *NM*replay 2/22/05 9:47 p.m.
           Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crumbEagle 117 2/23/05 12:18 a.m.
                 Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crEric Trautmann 2/23/05 3:51 p.m.
                       Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crdude1 2/23/05 5:53 p.m.
                       Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crJamirus99 2/23/05 7:35 p.m.
                       Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crEagle 117 2/23/05 9:28 p.m.
     A few questions/commentsyakaman 2/26/05 2:35 p.m.
           Re: A few questions/commentsEagle 117 2/26/05 11:40 p.m.
                 Re: A few questions/commentsyakaman 2/27/05 2:45 p.m.
     sin, the flood, and baptismforestfroggr 2/27/05 1:57 p.m.
           Re: sin, the flood, and baptismdude1 2/27/05 3:23 p.m.
           Re: sin, the flood, and baptism58 2/27/05 3:37 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersWado SG 2/27/05 5:57 p.m.
           Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEric Trautmann 2/28/05 5:26 p.m.
                 Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answersreplay 2/28/05 6:04 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersWado SG 2/28/05 6:19 p.m.



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