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Re: Show cats
Posted By: vector40 <vector40@aol.com>Date: 11/28/01 10:09 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Show cats (Anonymous Rex)

: Take a look at a post where somebody is being sarcastic. Ask yourself what
: point they are trying to make. Ask yourself if they could make that point
: without being sarcastic. Ask yourself why they chose to be sarcastic.

: Ferrex made his points, but he didn't need to be sarcastic to do it. He was
: belittling my points to make my perspective seem less valid. I don't think
: that was necessary. A good argument stands on its own and a poor one can
: be poked to pieces easily enough on its own lack of merits. Sarcasm
: attacks the person, not the argument, and is a cheap trick. Anybody can
: attack a person. Jack's an idiot. There. See? I just did it and it took
: zero effort. Of course, this is why sarcasm is so popular - it appeals to
: the lowest common denominator.

: It's not only cheap, it's nasty. And it's not only nasty, but it is nastiness
: masquerading as something else, which is, in my opinion, cowardly. There
: is enough nastiness in this world - especially on the Net - and it serves
: no purpose except to make people feel bad. That, as far as I know, is not
: the purpose of this forum.

: This is going to sound pretty hollow, but I'll say it anyway: my one use of
: sarcasm did serve a purpose, which was to point out how ridiculous was
: his defence of sarcasm. And, btw, I don't mean to dump on Ferrex. He's
: certainly not the only one being sarcastic around here.

: Anonymous Rex

Ah, there is a point that needs to be made here. You're confusing something.

This is an Internet forum. A gaming forum. People here are not congregated to discuss their baleful existences, the philosophy of being Unique, or the history of traditional custom. Nor such esoterica as Spartan Sybaritics, Potiosection, Gypsy Urban Planning, or even fractal carpetry.

Got carried away there. Back on point...

People have fun. People joke around. People do try to make points, on occasion, and hold meaningful discussions, but they also do an awful lot of pure humor and general jesting about. If you come here and post an entirely serious post, and hope for entirely serious responses, it's not going to happen — you'll probably get a fair amount of earnestness, from people who understand you're shooting for the grimly serious, but plenty of people will just joke. Is there anything wrong with that? No — unless, as has happened here, the humor gets mistaken.

Sarcasm is a form of humor. Not everybody appreciates it, not everybody understands it. But an awful lot of general humor is tinted with some form or another of sarcasm, and around here, it definitely happens.

So it's important to note that posts don't just contain either honest arguments, or sheer humor, but... some have both. Mine often do.

: The other thing wrong with sarcasm is that it is meant to be delivered with a
: certain tone and body language. You can't do that over the net and it is
: often misinterpreted.

Smilies. See? :) I use them liberally, because I agree, an awful lot of things — especially good-natured ribbing (see above) — of the sort perfectly ordinary in real life can be dreadfully misinterpreted online. So :) And :) And :)


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Replies:

How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 12:46 p.m.
     Get over yourself.Nijhazer 11/27/01 1:08 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyRiggs 11/27/01 1:09 p.m.
           Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyApollo 11/27/01 2:51 p.m.
                 What demos? *NM*Andrew Nagy 11/27/01 3:00 p.m.
                       Re: What demos?*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 3:48 p.m.
                             Re: What demos?Andrew Nagy 11/27/01 4:35 p.m.
                                   Re: What demos?Apollo 11/27/01 8:28 p.m.
                                         Re: What demos?Ferrex (Dead) 11/28/01 12:36 p.m.
           Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happyvector40 11/27/01 8:09 p.m.
     I'm keeping it simple...Djof@School 11/27/01 1:20 p.m.
           Re: I'm keeping it simple...vector40 11/27/01 8:11 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happymnemesis 11/27/01 1:24 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyCaerdwyn 11/27/01 1:31 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyFerrex (Dead) 11/27/01 1:52 p.m.
           well said *NM**Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 2:01 p.m.
           Thanks for replyingAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 2:42 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingAndrew Nagy 11/27/01 2:56 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingFerrex (Dead) 11/27/01 3:58 p.m.
                       Re: Thanks for replyingAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 5:18 p.m.
                             Re: Thanks for replyingCunbelin@Work 11/27/01 6:10 p.m.
                                   Re: Thanks for replyingkayas 11/27/01 6:50 p.m.
                                   One in the eye, Louis.vector40 11/27/01 8:37 p.m.
                                         rotfl!Louis Wu 11/27/01 8:52 p.m.
                                               Re: rotfl!vector40 11/27/01 9:25 p.m.
                                                     Re: rotfl!Louis Wu 11/27/01 9:29 p.m.
                                   OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)MakeMineRed 11/28/01 6:48 a.m.
                                         Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)vector40 11/28/01 7:15 p.m.
                                         Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)Cunbelin The Spoiler 11/29/01 1:40 a.m.
                                               Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)MakeMineRed 11/29/01 6:58 a.m.
                                                     Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)vector40 11/29/01 7:06 p.m.
                                                           September (end of) *NM*Louis Wu 11/29/01 7:12 p.m.
                                                                 Thanks. *NM*vector40 11/29/01 7:19 p.m.
                             Re: Thanks for replyingvector40 11/27/01 8:30 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingvector40 11/27/01 8:18 p.m.
           bunch of kids...Marty the Elder 11/27/01 4:16 p.m.
                 Re: bunch of kids...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 6:22 p.m.
                 Re: bunch of kids...Achronos 11/28/01 4:14 p.m.
     I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 2:12 p.m.
           Re: I'm amazed...no7orious 11/27/01 5:07 p.m.
                 Re: I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 6:45 p.m.
                       That sounds about right... cool! *NM*no7orious 11/27/01 7:37 p.m.
                       Re: I'm amazed...James Isaak 11/27/01 8:18 p.m.
                             Re: I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 11:30 p.m.
     Stop the presses.Frost 11/27/01 2:35 p.m.
           Re: Stop the presses.Anonymous Rex 11/27/01 2:47 p.m.
                 Re: Stop the presses.vector40 11/27/01 8:35 p.m.
                       Re: Stop the presses.Anonymous Rex 11/27/01 11:13 p.m.
                             Re: Stop the presses.vector40 11/27/01 11:30 p.m.
                                   Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 12:35 a.m.
                                         Re: Show catsvector40 11/28/01 7:13 p.m.
                                               Re: Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 9:05 p.m.
                                                     Re: Oh really!?kayas 11/28/01 10:07 p.m.
                                                     Re: Show catsvector40 11/28/01 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Show catsHackerhitman13 11/28/01 7:17 p.m.
                                               Re: Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 8:41 p.m.
                                                     Re: Show catsHackerhitman13 11/28/01 11:24 p.m.
                             Re: Stop the presses.Louis Wu 11/28/01 5:28 a.m.
                                   Re: Stop the presses.Frost 11/28/01 4:47 p.m.
                                   Louis is much better at this than I am. *NM*vector40 11/28/01 7:14 p.m.
                                   Bungie is differentAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 11:09 p.m.
                                         This is just dripping :)vector40 11/29/01 12:00 a.m.
                                               Bungie is differentAnonymous Rex 11/29/01 2:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie is differentvector40 11/29/01 7:02 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyCunbelin@Work 11/27/01 5:16 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyImpact 11/27/01 9:58 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappySteve Campbell 11/27/01 10:24 p.m.
     if you would...ONEi 11/28/01 12:06 p.m.
           Re: if you would...Steve 11/28/01 12:29 p.m.
           Re: if you would...vector40 11/28/01 7:01 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyHeavyMetalMachine 11/28/01 4:06 p.m.



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