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Re: Thanks for replying
Posted By: vector40 <vector40@aol.com>Date: 11/27/01 8:30 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Thanks for replying (Anonymous Rex)

: Sarcasm is the last refuge of the feeble-minded... or so I thought until you
: taught me different.

Trite quoting and packaged literary dogma is amusing, but serves little purpose.

: I don't believe I ever said or implied 'horribleness', in fact I said things
: in earlier posts that were much the opposite. I do think that Bungie fans,
: like myself, have put up with a lot over the past two years waiting for
: this great game to come along. When it did, it cost a lot more than we
: expected and was something less than advertised. Do you disagree that the
: trailers Bungie released differ remarkably in their portrayal of the game
: concept than the product? I'd be surprised to hear you say yes.

I'd be surprised to see that somebody as obviously intelligent as yourself thinks that early trailers or demos of a game (still in the tech stage, and in this case, on the other side of a platform change from the final version) represent the game in any meaningful way. If you truly believe that, you're wrong, and the only way to prove otherwise would be to start a game company, build a game from scratch, and concentrate on making it release exactly the way you previewed it from the start.

And it would suck.

: I'm aware games take a long time to develop. The amount of detail in a game
: like Halo, is mind-boggling. But that's not why Halo took two years
: though, is it?

I fail to see the meaning of this. All things have problems. Nothing ever goes as planned. In this case, as you so cleverly imply, the company went through a ownership and developed-platform change, not the mention multiple engine changes. Yes, this makes things take longer. Is it necessarily bad? Not in the slightest.

: I think if you read my critique of Halo, and the thread, you'll find that
: most people who responded agreed with me. That doesn't mean they aren't
: enjoying it. That doesn't mean that I am not enjoying it. Please, read the
: thread.

: Read the thread.

I fear an awful lot of the forum dwellers are in awe of your mastery of the English language. It's something remarkably rare around here. And yes, I don't think I've run into anybody who didn't have SOME quibble with the game. But the difference is this: their (everybody else I've run into) final opinion of the game is that it's a great game, worth playing. Yours is that it wasn't. This is primarily based off of your expectations, which have absolutely nothing to do with the actual game, but regardless — that's your final evaluation, and it differs from most of the others I've seen.

: I obviously did anger people, but not intentionally. I said "let's
: pretend that I am the proxy". The whole exercise was a hypothetical.
: I was not passing myself off as the spokeperson for any other individual
: or group. I did not misrepresent myself. I don't see how I could do that
: in plain view of everyone.

: What untruth would that be?

See above.

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Replies:

How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 12:46 p.m.
     Get over yourself.Nijhazer 11/27/01 1:08 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyRiggs 11/27/01 1:09 p.m.
           Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyApollo 11/27/01 2:51 p.m.
                 What demos? *NM*Andrew Nagy 11/27/01 3:00 p.m.
                       Re: What demos?*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 3:48 p.m.
                             Re: What demos?Andrew Nagy 11/27/01 4:35 p.m.
                                   Re: What demos?Apollo 11/27/01 8:28 p.m.
                                         Re: What demos?Ferrex (Dead) 11/28/01 12:36 p.m.
           Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happyvector40 11/27/01 8:09 p.m.
     I'm keeping it simple...Djof@School 11/27/01 1:20 p.m.
           Re: I'm keeping it simple...vector40 11/27/01 8:11 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happymnemesis 11/27/01 1:24 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyCaerdwyn 11/27/01 1:31 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyFerrex (Dead) 11/27/01 1:52 p.m.
           well said *NM**Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 2:01 p.m.
           Thanks for replyingAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 2:42 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingAndrew Nagy 11/27/01 2:56 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingFerrex (Dead) 11/27/01 3:58 p.m.
                       Re: Thanks for replyingAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 5:18 p.m.
                             Re: Thanks for replyingCunbelin@Work 11/27/01 6:10 p.m.
                                   Re: Thanks for replyingkayas 11/27/01 6:50 p.m.
                                   One in the eye, Louis.vector40 11/27/01 8:37 p.m.
                                         rotfl!Louis Wu 11/27/01 8:52 p.m.
                                               Re: rotfl!vector40 11/27/01 9:25 p.m.
                                                     Re: rotfl!Louis Wu 11/27/01 9:29 p.m.
                                   OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)MakeMineRed 11/28/01 6:48 a.m.
                                         Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)vector40 11/28/01 7:15 p.m.
                                         Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)Cunbelin The Spoiler 11/29/01 1:40 a.m.
                                               Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)MakeMineRed 11/29/01 6:58 a.m.
                                                     Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)vector40 11/29/01 7:06 p.m.
                                                           September (end of) *NM*Louis Wu 11/29/01 7:12 p.m.
                                                                 Thanks. *NM*vector40 11/29/01 7:19 p.m.
                             Re: Thanks for replyingvector40 11/27/01 8:30 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingvector40 11/27/01 8:18 p.m.
           bunch of kids...Marty the Elder 11/27/01 4:16 p.m.
                 Re: bunch of kids...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 6:22 p.m.
                 Re: bunch of kids...Achronos 11/28/01 4:14 p.m.
     I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 2:12 p.m.
           Re: I'm amazed...no7orious 11/27/01 5:07 p.m.
                 Re: I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 6:45 p.m.
                       That sounds about right... cool! *NM*no7orious 11/27/01 7:37 p.m.
                       Re: I'm amazed...James Isaak 11/27/01 8:18 p.m.
                             Re: I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 11:30 p.m.
     Stop the presses.Frost 11/27/01 2:35 p.m.
           Re: Stop the presses.Anonymous Rex 11/27/01 2:47 p.m.
                 Re: Stop the presses.vector40 11/27/01 8:35 p.m.
                       Re: Stop the presses.Anonymous Rex 11/27/01 11:13 p.m.
                             Re: Stop the presses.vector40 11/27/01 11:30 p.m.
                                   Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 12:35 a.m.
                                         Re: Show catsvector40 11/28/01 7:13 p.m.
                                               Re: Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 9:05 p.m.
                                                     Re: Oh really!?kayas 11/28/01 10:07 p.m.
                                                     Re: Show catsvector40 11/28/01 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Show catsHackerhitman13 11/28/01 7:17 p.m.
                                               Re: Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 8:41 p.m.
                                                     Re: Show catsHackerhitman13 11/28/01 11:24 p.m.
                             Re: Stop the presses.Louis Wu 11/28/01 5:28 a.m.
                                   Re: Stop the presses.Frost 11/28/01 4:47 p.m.
                                   Louis is much better at this than I am. *NM*vector40 11/28/01 7:14 p.m.
                                   Bungie is differentAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 11:09 p.m.
                                         This is just dripping :)vector40 11/29/01 12:00 a.m.
                                               Bungie is differentAnonymous Rex 11/29/01 2:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie is differentvector40 11/29/01 7:02 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyCunbelin@Work 11/27/01 5:16 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyImpact 11/27/01 9:58 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappySteve Campbell 11/27/01 10:24 p.m.
     if you would...ONEi 11/28/01 12:06 p.m.
           Re: if you would...Steve 11/28/01 12:29 p.m.
           Re: if you would...vector40 11/28/01 7:01 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyHeavyMetalMachine 11/28/01 4:06 p.m.



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