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Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happy
Posted By: Ferrex (Dead)Date: 11/27/01 1:52 p.m.

In Response To: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happy (Anonymous Rex)

: a) have to wait 2 years for a game that

Game development takes a bit of time, even when there aren't substantial changes to a project halfway through (ie. changing to a different platform)

: b) cost me $700+ and

This is nobody's fault but your own. I've priced an XBox and Halo (and DOA3) at Futureshop.ca for my brother for $599. CDN. 7% GST bumps it up to around $650. PST as well? You're still under $700. And I fully expect he'll get years out of the system as other games are released for it.

Investing in a substantial amount of hardware for a single game is a choice left up to the gamer. If you feel that you paid too much for the system, then why didn't you rent it first, to try it? Why didn't you give it a spin on a kiosk somewhere? Try it at a friend's place?

A lot of people felt that buying an XBox was worth it for Halo. You didn't, and I'm sorry to hear that (but not particularly suprised). But Bungie didn't cost you $700. Bungie cost you $69.99, plus tax, CDN.

: c) didn't meet the expectations Bungie created for it.

Sorry, but you created those expectations. Bungie only gave you material to work with. If it were possible for us to construct fantastic images directly in the brains of our audience, we wouldn't be in game development, we'd be in advertising. And filthy rich.

: They probably want to keep me happy so that I'll
: continue to buy games and say nice things about their games to others who
: will also buy them.

Sorry, but there is such a thing as 'fighting a losing battle'. A game cannot be perfect for everyone, and the challenge is making it as good as possible for the most people.

Given the mass acclaim Halo has recieved, it looks like we had some measure of success. The majority of people are well pleased with Halo--a few are even ecstatic. I'm sorry that you fall into the group that is unhappy with it, but I get the impression that you wouldn't have been happy with the game even if it had been free.

: 1. keep the game/Xbox, but bad mouth the game/Bungie and try and get as many
: people to NOT buy Halo as possible

Actually, the opposite has been happening. I've heard quite a few people change their minds and get (or rent) copies of Halo based on the positive impressions of others.

: 2. return the game/Xbox
: 3. not buy their next title

Certainly options in your case.

: Bungie's options:
: 1. they could give me a rebate of a few hundred dollars

Right.

: 2. they could send me some other Xbox titles

Right.

: 3. they could include some Easter Eggs or extra levels in the next version of
: Halo as a special thank you to loyal fans for sticking with them

Halo has easter eggs, but I gather you didn't spend a lot of time looking for them.

: 6. they could donate stuff to Halo fan sites to distribute - again by lottery
: - to loyal Bungie fans...

Bungie has done this in the past. Bungie will likely to so again in the future.

: 7. key Bungie staff could make themselves available on this forum or others
: for Q&A as an acknowledgement that loyal Bungie fans have put up with a
: lot waiting for the release of Halo.

Aye. I mean, lord knows, Bungie employees never read the forums and never listen to what happens on them.

: I think
: that's their best option.

I'm glad the online team has you to tell them what they already know. I mean, otherwise their entire day might be spent teasing Marty, instead of working on the 7th Column or the Truth and Reconciliation.

-rex


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Replies:

How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 12:46 p.m.
     Get over yourself.Nijhazer 11/27/01 1:08 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyRiggs 11/27/01 1:09 p.m.
           Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyApollo 11/27/01 2:51 p.m.
                 What demos? *NM*Andrew Nagy 11/27/01 3:00 p.m.
                       Re: What demos?*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 3:48 p.m.
                             Re: What demos?Andrew Nagy 11/27/01 4:35 p.m.
                                   Re: What demos?Apollo 11/27/01 8:28 p.m.
                                         Re: What demos?Ferrex (Dead) 11/28/01 12:36 p.m.
           Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happyvector40 11/27/01 8:09 p.m.
     I'm keeping it simple...Djof@School 11/27/01 1:20 p.m.
           Re: I'm keeping it simple...vector40 11/27/01 8:11 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans Happymnemesis 11/27/01 1:24 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyCaerdwyn 11/27/01 1:31 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyFerrex (Dead) 11/27/01 1:52 p.m.
           well said *NM**Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 2:01 p.m.
           Thanks for replyingAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 2:42 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingAndrew Nagy 11/27/01 2:56 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingFerrex (Dead) 11/27/01 3:58 p.m.
                       Re: Thanks for replyingAnonymous Rex 11/27/01 5:18 p.m.
                             Re: Thanks for replyingCunbelin@Work 11/27/01 6:10 p.m.
                                   Re: Thanks for replyingkayas 11/27/01 6:50 p.m.
                                   One in the eye, Louis.vector40 11/27/01 8:37 p.m.
                                         rotfl!Louis Wu 11/27/01 8:52 p.m.
                                               Re: rotfl!vector40 11/27/01 9:25 p.m.
                                                     Re: rotfl!Louis Wu 11/27/01 9:29 p.m.
                                   OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)MakeMineRed 11/28/01 6:48 a.m.
                                         Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)vector40 11/28/01 7:15 p.m.
                                         Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)Cunbelin The Spoiler 11/29/01 1:40 a.m.
                                               Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)MakeMineRed 11/29/01 6:58 a.m.
                                                     Re: OMG!! OMG NOE!!!!! (NT)vector40 11/29/01 7:06 p.m.
                                                           September (end of) *NM*Louis Wu 11/29/01 7:12 p.m.
                                                                 Thanks. *NM*vector40 11/29/01 7:19 p.m.
                             Re: Thanks for replyingvector40 11/27/01 8:30 p.m.
                 Re: Thanks for replyingvector40 11/27/01 8:18 p.m.
           bunch of kids...Marty the Elder 11/27/01 4:16 p.m.
                 Re: bunch of kids...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 6:22 p.m.
                 Re: bunch of kids...Achronos 11/28/01 4:14 p.m.
     I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 2:12 p.m.
           Re: I'm amazed...no7orious 11/27/01 5:07 p.m.
                 Re: I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 6:45 p.m.
                       That sounds about right... cool! *NM*no7orious 11/27/01 7:37 p.m.
                       Re: I'm amazed...James Isaak 11/27/01 8:18 p.m.
                             Re: I'm amazed...*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/27/01 11:30 p.m.
     Stop the presses.Frost 11/27/01 2:35 p.m.
           Re: Stop the presses.Anonymous Rex 11/27/01 2:47 p.m.
                 Re: Stop the presses.vector40 11/27/01 8:35 p.m.
                       Re: Stop the presses.Anonymous Rex 11/27/01 11:13 p.m.
                             Re: Stop the presses.vector40 11/27/01 11:30 p.m.
                                   Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 12:35 a.m.
                                         Re: Show catsvector40 11/28/01 7:13 p.m.
                                               Re: Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 9:05 p.m.
                                                     Re: Oh really!?kayas 11/28/01 10:07 p.m.
                                                     Re: Show catsvector40 11/28/01 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Show catsHackerhitman13 11/28/01 7:17 p.m.
                                               Re: Show catsAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 8:41 p.m.
                                                     Re: Show catsHackerhitman13 11/28/01 11:24 p.m.
                             Re: Stop the presses.Louis Wu 11/28/01 5:28 a.m.
                                   Re: Stop the presses.Frost 11/28/01 4:47 p.m.
                                   Louis is much better at this than I am. *NM*vector40 11/28/01 7:14 p.m.
                                   Bungie is differentAnonymous Rex 11/28/01 11:09 p.m.
                                         This is just dripping :)vector40 11/29/01 12:00 a.m.
                                               Bungie is differentAnonymous Rex 11/29/01 2:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie is differentvector40 11/29/01 7:02 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyCunbelin@Work 11/27/01 5:16 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyImpact 11/27/01 9:58 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappySteve Campbell 11/27/01 10:24 p.m.
     if you would...ONEi 11/28/01 12:06 p.m.
           Re: if you would...Steve 11/28/01 12:29 p.m.
           Re: if you would...vector40 11/28/01 7:01 p.m.
     Re: How to Keep Loyal Fans HappyHeavyMetalMachine 11/28/01 4:06 p.m.



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