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Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram
Posted By: thebruce0 <thebruce@rogers.com>Date: 9/29/10 8:32 a.m.

In Response To: Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram (Hawaiian Pig)


: Regardless of your choices, the outcomes are the same. Now that isn't to say
: these choices don't foster an interesting level of depth to problem
: solving, but in the end, it's still problem solving, not choice.

Right, and it's a fundamental difference between an open world and a linear video game. You can't fault a game style for inherent properties of the game style. You can however determine how well the game provides a memorable, entertaining experience.

If you don't like linear games because it's just problem solving with no neutral-choice/multi-outcome content, then fine. But you (generally speaking :) can't fault Halo for not having that level of choice, then claim other FPSs are somehow better in that regard - they're bound by the same limitation; the only 'success' outcome is to beat the game, and beat levels within.

RPG = open problems and many choices related, or unrelated, to the problems
FPS = linear play with sequential problems, providing numerous choice-paths in how to solve them

Single-path linear video games are boring and bad design (these days, at least).
As per the video's example - "Do you accept this task? Yes/No. No? You kid! Do you accept this task? Yes/No..."

http://halo.wikibruce.com/Halo_Reach



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Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/27/10 7:31 p.m.
     Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Avateur 9/27/10 7:38 p.m.
           Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/27/10 7:54 p.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Leviathan 9/27/10 8:12 p.m.
                       Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/27/10 8:21 p.m.
                             Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 12:04 a.m.
                                   Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?thebruce0 9/28/10 8:40 a.m.
                                         Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?uberfoop 9/28/10 3:42 p.m.
                                               ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram! :Pthebruce0 9/28/10 7:14 p.m.
                                                     Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagramHawaiian Pig 9/28/10 7:35 p.m.
                                                           Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagramthebruce0 9/29/10 8:32 a.m.
                                                                 Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagramThorsHammer 9/29/10 10:57 a.m.
                                   Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/28/10 5:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 5:34 p.m.
                                               Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Leviathan 9/28/10 6:16 p.m.
                                                     Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/28/10 6:33 p.m.
                                               Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/28/10 6:42 p.m.
                                                     Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 6:50 p.m.
                             Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Leviathan 9/28/10 12:45 a.m.
     Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Harmanimus 9/27/10 8:02 p.m.
           Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/27/10 8:38 p.m.
           Lots of great lines.Capt Spanish 9/27/10 11:09 p.m.
                 Re: Lots of great lines.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/28/10 6:11 a.m.
                 Re: Lots of great lines.thebruce0 9/28/10 8:43 a.m.
                       Re: Lots of great lines.thebruce0 9/28/10 8:46 a.m.
           Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?General Battuta 9/28/10 12:47 a.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 1:01 a.m.
     Reach. *NM*stan 9/27/10 9:08 p.m.
           Eh, that's kind of a reach. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 9/27/10 9:29 p.m.
           How did you reach that conclusion? *NM*ArteenEsben 9/27/10 11:18 p.m.
     The main character is Reach *NM*Samus 117 9/27/10 9:19 p.m.
     In line with my thoughts, too. *NM*Kermit 9/27/10 9:59 p.m.
     Six is.Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 12:01 a.m.
           Re: Six is.General Battuta 9/28/10 12:52 a.m.
                 Re: Six is.Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 12:57 a.m.
                       Re: Six is.Avateur 9/28/10 12:58 a.m.
                             Re: Six is.General Battuta 9/28/10 1:00 a.m.
                                   Re: Six is.uberfoop 9/28/10 1:03 a.m.
     Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Cody Miller 9/28/10 12:25 a.m.
           Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?thebruce0 9/28/10 8:54 a.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Cody Miller 9/28/10 7:36 p.m.
                       Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?thebruce0 9/29/10 8:33 a.m.
     Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?ArteenEsben 9/28/10 12:41 a.m.
           Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 12:55 a.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?General Battuta 9/28/10 1:02 a.m.
                       Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 1:07 a.m.
                             Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?thebruce0 9/28/10 8:59 a.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Kermit 9/28/10 5:38 a.m.
                       Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 12:52 p.m.
                       Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?SonofMacPhisto 9/28/10 5:33 p.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Schedonnardus 9/28/10 9:57 a.m.
                 Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Trey 9/28/10 8:37 p.m.
                       Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?Hawaiian Pig 9/28/10 9:02 p.m.
           Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway?uberfoop 9/28/10 1:07 a.m.
     Bob. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/29/10 9:59 a.m.
           Coming soon...thebruce0 9/29/10 10:15 a.m.
                 Re: Coming soon...Avateur 9/29/10 4:14 p.m.
                 Re: Coming soon...nash--housewares 9/29/10 4:29 p.m.



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