Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram |
Posted By: thebruce0 <thebruce@rogers.com> | Date: 9/29/10 8:32 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram (Hawaiian Pig)
: Regardless of your choices, the outcomes are the same. Now that isn't to say
: these choices don't foster an interesting level of depth to problem
: solving, but in the end, it's still problem solving, not choice.
Right, and it's a fundamental difference between an open world and a linear video game. You can't fault a game style for inherent properties of the game style. You can however determine how well the game provides a memorable, entertaining experience.
If you don't like linear games because it's just problem solving with no neutral-choice/multi-outcome content, then fine. But you (generally speaking :) can't fault Halo for not having that level of choice, then claim other FPSs are somehow better in that regard - they're bound by the same limitation; the only 'success' outcome is to beat the game, and beat levels within.
RPG = open problems and many choices related, or unrelated, to the problems
FPS = linear play with sequential problems, providing numerous choice-paths in how to solve them
Single-path linear video games are boring and bad design (these days, at least).
As per the video's example - "Do you accept this task? Yes/No. No? You kid! Do you accept this task? Yes/No..."
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Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | SonofMacPhisto | 9/27/10 7:54 p.m. |
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Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | SonofMacPhisto | 9/27/10 8:21 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 12:04 a.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | thebruce0 | 9/28/10 8:40 a.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | uberfoop | 9/28/10 3:42 p.m. |
..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram! :P | thebruce0 | 9/28/10 7:14 p.m. |
Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 7:35 p.m. |
Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram | thebruce0 | 9/29/10 8:32 a.m. |
Re: ..in which I blather on and on. With a diagram | ThorsHammer | 9/29/10 10:57 a.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | SonofMacPhisto | 9/28/10 5:22 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 5:34 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Leviathan | 9/28/10 6:16 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | SonofMacPhisto | 9/28/10 6:33 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | SonofMacPhisto | 9/28/10 6:42 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 6:50 p.m. |
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Lots of great lines. | Capt Spanish | 9/27/10 11:09 p.m. |
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Re: Lots of great lines. | thebruce0 | 9/28/10 8:43 a.m. |
Re: Lots of great lines. | thebruce0 | 9/28/10 8:46 a.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | General Battuta | 9/28/10 12:47 a.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 1:01 a.m. |
Reach. *NM* | stan | 9/27/10 9:08 p.m. |
Eh, that's kind of a reach. *NM* | SonofMacPhisto | 9/27/10 9:29 p.m. |
How did you reach that conclusion? *NM* | ArteenEsben | 9/27/10 11:18 p.m. |
The main character is Reach *NM* | Samus 117 | 9/27/10 9:19 p.m. |
In line with my thoughts, too. *NM* | Kermit | 9/27/10 9:59 p.m. |
Six is. | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 12:01 a.m. |
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Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Kermit | 9/28/10 5:38 a.m. |
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Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | Hawaiian Pig | 9/28/10 9:02 p.m. |
Re: Who is Reach's main character, anyway? | uberfoop | 9/28/10 1:07 a.m. |
Bob. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 9/29/10 9:59 a.m. |
Coming soon... | thebruce0 | 9/29/10 10:15 a.m. |
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