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A few questions/comments
Posted By: yakamanDate: 2/26/05 2:35 p.m.

In Response To: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answers (Eagle 117)

First and foremost: unbelievable work. Unbelievable.

1.) How does the conflict between humanity and the covenant fall into this framework? Is there any deeper foretelling of it, does it fall into the mythology somewhere, or is it simply short-sighted political/religous crusading by the prophets? Are they simply pawns?

2.) Humans as "man" works very well, obviously Reclaimers are chosen people. However, this sort of means that all other species in the Haloverse are...irrelevant. True?

3.) Gravemind as "Satan" and fallen Forerunner - perhaps he (or is he a collection of Forerunner (Legion)) chose another path when attempting to survive the original Flood. Perhaps Forerunner broke into 2 camps: put eggs in basket of man to reclaim (faith in a savior), or bio-engineer own race to become flood but retain identity (embrace evil).

4.) Back to specifics - why man? Why would one species (Forerunner) choose to save a few of another species (or somehow rebirth) instead of just saving a few of themselves? What's special about man?

If your line of reasoning holds, it simplifies things greatly - by my interpretation it would mean that the covenant is irrelevant. That it (and the species enlisted by it) is at best a pawn, it becomes relegated to the role of 7-nation army and nothing more. However, the covenant does not yet fight with Gravemind, they fight against him. I assume that this is why you believe the death of Truth and resurrection as the AC by Gravemind will occur - to bring 7-nation army under Satans (Graveminds) control.

One thing I'm not sure of - interspecies mingling makes sense for Spartans' innate abilities/knowledge of Forerunner stuff. However, if the fallen angels (bad Forerunner) disbelieved in man, why would they be the ones to mingle? I know that's how the (biblical) story goes, but why in the haloverse? If anything, it would make more sense for the "good angels" to mingle DNA with humans.

In any case, I feel out of breath. Good grief, that's good mental exercise.


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Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEagle 117 2/21/05 4:54 p.m.
     WhewJillybean 2/21/05 5:00 p.m.
           Re: WhewEagle 117 2/21/05 5:02 p.m.
                 Re: WhewHikaru-119 2/21/05 5:10 p.m.
                       Re: WhewEagle 117 2/22/05 8:00 a.m.
                 Re: WhewFugitiveSoldier 2/21/05 5:10 p.m.
                       The Last Xion -- Would that tie in?Sniper 058 2/21/05 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: WhewMr. Mister 2/21/05 5:21 p.m.
     All I can say is. . . wow.ARCHANGEL 7 2/21/05 5:08 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersoBlade 2/21/05 5:09 p.m.
     Nice ‹ <--Smiley face, look hardEchoes 2/21/05 5:17 p.m.
           Re: Nice ‹ <--Smiley face, look hardEagle 117 2/21/05 7:22 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersPeptuck 2/21/05 5:18 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answersmeleeman 2/21/05 5:26 p.m.
           Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersHikaru-119 2/21/05 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersSniper 058 2/21/05 6:16 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersHikaru-119 2/21/05 7:05 p.m.
                             Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEagle 117 2/21/05 7:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersHikaru-119 2/21/05 7:28 p.m.
           John 117 < "The Savior"Eagle 117 2/22/05 8:27 a.m.
                 Re: John 117 < "The Savior"Eagle 117 2/25/05 10:43 a.m.
                       Re: John 117 < "The Savior"Captain Spark 2/25/05 10:54 a.m.
                             Re: John 117 < "The Savior"Series III (MetalSilver) 2/25/05 10:56 a.m.
                             You should've read before opening your mouthEagle 117 2/25/05 11:15 a.m.
                                   Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCaptain Spark 2/25/05 11:28 a.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthSep7imus [subnova] 2/25/05 11:33 a.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthEagle 117 2/25/05 12:14 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCaptain Spark 2/25/05 3:56 p.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthEagle 117 2/25/05 12:11 p.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthLouis Wu 2/25/05 1:36 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthWalshicus 2/25/05 2:21 p.m.
                                                     Re: You should've read before opening your mouthVorpal Sword 2/25/05 2:31 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthStuntmutt 2/25/05 3:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: You should've read before opening your mouthLouis Wu 2/25/05 3:18 p.m.
                                                           Re: You should've read before opening your mouthWalshicus 2/25/05 3:34 p.m.
                                                                 Re: You should've read before opening your mouthLouis Wu 2/25/05 4:15 p.m.
                                                                 Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCount Zero 2/25/05 5:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: You should've read before opening your mouthWalshicus 2/25/05 6:22 p.m.
                                               Re: You should've read before opening your mouthCaptain Spark 2/25/05 3:54 p.m.
                                         Re: You should've read before opening your mouthAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/25/05 3:18 p.m.
                                               It's funny where these conversations go :-) *NM*Eagle 117 2/25/05 3:47 p.m.
                                                     Yes...Walshicus 2/25/05 3:53 p.m.
                                                           Re: Yes...Eagle 117 2/25/05 4:19 p.m.
     good to hear from you as always eagle :D *NM*Voltage 2/21/05 5:38 p.m.
           It's nice to know I'm remembered :-) *NM*Eagle 117 2/21/05 7:18 p.m.
     *blush* :) *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 2/21/05 5:44 p.m.
     The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...xitwound117 2/21/05 7:42 p.m.
           Re: The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...spaartan117 2/21/05 8:24 p.m.
           Re: The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...Skedar 2/21/05 8:51 p.m.
                 Re: The issue of the Flood is still unanswered...ErraticAuto 2/22/05 3:41 a.m.
     Very Nice. Well Written! *NM*Steve 2/21/05 9:20 p.m.
     Dude, you are AWESOME *nm*dude1 2/22/05 4:12 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEric Trautmann 2/22/05 7:17 p.m.
           Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answersdude1 2/22/05 7:58 p.m.
           Thanks for the response, Trautmann *NM*replay 2/22/05 9:47 p.m.
           Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crumbEagle 117 2/23/05 12:18 a.m.
                 Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crEric Trautmann 2/23/05 3:51 p.m.
                       Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crdude1 2/23/05 5:53 p.m.
                       Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crJamirus99 2/23/05 7:35 p.m.
                       Re: Does this mean I get a cookie... at least a crEagle 117 2/23/05 9:28 p.m.
     A few questions/commentsyakaman 2/26/05 2:35 p.m.
           Re: A few questions/commentsEagle 117 2/26/05 11:40 p.m.
                 Re: A few questions/commentsyakaman 2/27/05 2:45 p.m.
     sin, the flood, and baptismforestfroggr 2/27/05 1:57 p.m.
           Re: sin, the flood, and baptismdude1 2/27/05 3:23 p.m.
           Re: sin, the flood, and baptism58 2/27/05 3:37 p.m.
     Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersWado SG 2/27/05 5:57 p.m.
           Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersEric Trautmann 2/28/05 5:26 p.m.
                 Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of Answersreplay 2/28/05 6:04 p.m.
                       Re: Trautmannís Clue: A Dictionary of AnswersWado SG 2/28/05 6:19 p.m.



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