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Re: More Reach concepts.
Posted By: Gravemind <kuukan_no_kage@yahoo.com>	Date: 8/23/12 6:16 p.m.
In Response To: Re: More Reach concepts. (Archilen) : I've been complaining for some time that 343i underestimates the importance : of the visual side of things and gives artists too much freedom (or that : their artists can't restrain themselves). This has been apparent in their : lack of control of visuals in ancillary media like comics and such, but : it's disappointing that the same neglectful attitude carries over to : something as major as the next Halo game. One has to wonder what does : their "art director" even do if not keep the art direction in : check, though it might be that MP armors are just considered secondary to : everything else. It goes against 343i's philosophy of everything being : connected, but I guess that doesn't apply to visuals. It's not just MP armors that clash with everything that came before, though. Creature physiology has changed drastically as well. Elites, Grunts, and Jackals have all been redesigned to look very reptilian (Grunts look like tortoises instead of "humanoid with crab-like exoskeleton", and Jackals look like friggin' iguanas with underbites instead of bug-eyed vultures). Why not just save time and money and just port all the Covenant models from Reach over like what Sabre did with HCEA, with maybe minor modifications to their armor (but not physiology) to show that they're not regular Covie military or whatever? Also, the Prometheans look decidedly un-Forerunner in appearance with their biomechanical design. And of course there's the Chief's armor changing just because someone wanted to change it for no good reason. I'm just not digging the art design in this game. From a purely technical standpoint, the graphics are excellent, but from a personal aesthetic POV, they leave a lot to be desired.

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ALL of them?	ZackDark	8/15/12 10:35 p.m.
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Sheesh, sorry! *NM*	NotTheVacuum	8/17/12 1:57 p.m.
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Precisely.	Azo 'Galvat	8/22/12 4:11 p.m.
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More Reach concepts.	Gravemind	8/22/12 5:26 p.m.
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